I get the joke, but the sundials of ancient civilisations precluded clocks.
Sundials also didn’t work very well at midnight for some reason, what’s ya point?
You’re just not holding the flashlight properly.
If you hold the flashlight right they work 100% of the time.
Instructions unclear, I think my fleshlight is broken…
Dial it back a bit son
Back in, or back out? Please be clear or I’ll have to keep trying both ways. Over. And. Over. And. Over. Aaaannn…fffff.
<connection reset by peer>
That’s when we bring out the moondial.
The firedial works every night.
That’s why for a long time, and even longer in the Royal Navy, the new day started at noon and not midnight.
Sundials also didn’t work very well at midnight for some reason, what’s ya point?
Noon is the center of the dial. Midnight is just the opposite of noon.
I cannot tell if this is sarcasm or not. This is peak Poe’s Law.
“Precluded” means “prevented” or to “make impossible” ❤️
Oh hot damn, first time I used that word.
Maybe presaged?
Predated
Preceded maybe? Precluded sounds like it should mean something similar for sure tho
Ah yes, I knew I was messing two words up and forgot preceded! 👍
It’s all the Babylonians fault
Those fuckers could count to 60 on their fingers. Witchcraft!
Using binary, we could count to 1023 with 10 fingers but only 511 with 9 fingers
Boys could count to 2047.
Yup, that’s why we still don’t have any clocks to this day.
Well… This post sent me down a rabbit hole -> Unequal Hours if anyone else is curious.
It is wild how people refuse to use the 24 hour clock. It is so logical and easy. kind of like the metric system……
First thing I change on every electronic device I buy.
And really annoying when something only has 12hr mode
I don’t want to believe that time goes on for that long.
I’d rather a 6 hour clock.
I’d prefer base 10 time than base 12. Until then I’ll just keep with am pm
I’d prefer base 12 for everything
We should all also use GMT and forget about time zones.
You mean like metric time?
Metric system should be replaced with something base12 thh
It only solves a small part of the issue at the cost of less convenience and consistency. Propose a “metric” time that solves more of this issue problem and I’m all for it
less convenience and consistency
What? … seriously, which convenience and consistency are you talking about.
24h only has one “inconsistency”, going from 23:59 to 0:00. How is that less consistent than 12am being after 11:59pm and 12pm being after 11:59am. Solves all parts of the issue except for one. Which is a lot better than the 12h system.
Why are the 60 minutes in an hour but 24 hours in a day? What functional difference is there between tne 12 and 24 hour clock? Are you showing up to your friend’s dinner party at 6am because you weren’t sure what time they wanted to start dinner? Are you unsure if your picnic is supposed to be right after midday or the middle of the night? Maybe your friend wanted to meet up for coffee and a bagel when you normally go to bed instead of right before you head off for lunch
I asked why the am/pm system is apparently more convenient and consistent than the 24h system. I didn’t ask about 24h in a day and 60min in an hour.
What functional difference is there between tne 12 and 24 hour clock?
You need 2 numbers and 2 letters to accurately specify time in the 12h clock instead of just 2 numbers. Seems convenient to me.
You don’t need the am or pm 90% of the time because obviously a lunch date is happening sometime around noon, not midnight. A lunar eclipse or meteor shower isn’t visible while the sun is up, or a midnight snack isn’t happening in the middle of the day. Obviously if you are talking trains and flights, you need AM and PM. But people who are used to 12 hour time don’t want to figure out when 16:00 is, so they don’t.
Fun fact: Many countries use both systems actually.
For speaking, it’s quicker to say something like: “The party starts at 8” instead of “The party starts at 20 o’clock”.
For writing though, you would never use the 12 hour system.
If you know basic addition and you know how a 12 hour clock functions, then you know how a 24 hour clock functions. If you can’t figure it out, that doesn’t make it inconvenient, it just makes you incredibly stupid.
Because 12 and 60 are great numbers to divide. You can take a half of it, a third and a quarter and still get whole numbers.
Iirc the French did try decimal time at one time, it was not convenient.
This has messed with me for the longest time. 24h just wraps around at 24, simple modulo 24 arithmetic.
12h? The hour and am / pm wrap around independently, and hence I am always confused whether 12pm is supposed to be midnight or noon. Zero based would have made more sense (with x pm being x hours after noon…)
Heh thanks for explaining it, I never knew if noon was 12am or 12pm. In German we say “11 in the morning”, “12 o Clock (noon*)” , and “1 o Clock (in the afternoon)”
But typically we don’t say whether it’s am or pm, it’s clear from context if “i need to be in the work meeting at 9”
Clocks, TV listings, my work timesheet read 24h times. We read 15:00 as “three” most of the time.
Btw some software tools (my timesheet for work) differnciate between 0:00 and 24:00. I can work (theoretically) from 0:00 to 8:00 (8h in the night to morning) and from 16:00 to 24:00 (8 hours from afternoon to midnight).
So 0:00 and 24:00 are the same moment but thought to belong to the next or previous say, respectively.
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1 metric second would be a little less than half our current second.
Global electricity output would instantly more than double!!!
Dammit, that wasn’t supposed to post yet. I’m still in the process of revising! Lol.
Not to worry, we will use the Babylonian watt for
megaimperial-tonne-fortnights to come.
“This doesn’t solve all of the problems instantly so I refuse”
Classic
24 hour analogue clocks exist. I have a 24 hour watch which only revolves once per 24 hours. It’s a disadvantage though.
The reason why clocks and watches display 12 hours at a time is so that they have space to show finer resolution of time. If you try to cram 24 hours onto a clock, it’s not easy to tell if it’s 12:20 or 12:30 at a quick glance.
Most people are not too stupid to be aware of if they are in the first 12 hours or second 12 hours of a day, so they benefit from a watch with 12 hour timescale and finer resolution so that they can more easily see exactly what time it is.
And for all the dummies posting about 12h vs 24h clocks. In the sense of saying that it’s 1pm vs 13:00. That’s not what this meme is even describing. This is about the physical layout of a clock or watch face.
I can’t believe this is the first I’m hearing of 24-hour analogue clocks! That’s so cool. But yeah, I see your point about it now allowing for very much precision at a glance.
If 12 is better than 24 we should build 6 hour analog clocks already!
This is what the minute and second hands are for, though
The clock makes so much more sense when you rewrite the 12 as a 0
I never confirmed this, but I noticed that in parts of West Africa, people wouldn’t say “afternoon” until after 1:00pm. Since greetings were important, I started noticing it more and more when peoe would say “good morning” during lunch at 12:30pm. As if the 12 noon hour is still part of the time segment.
Keep it simple and just measure in terms of seconds since the Big Bang. The current time is 435,884,579,968,052,736 seconds, easy peasy
Nah just use Unix time
technically that is 64 bit unix time.
The big bang was definitely not in 1970
They had to pick a period where 32 bits would last long enough. If they had started with 64 bits, they could have used a start of time much further back.
The big bang was definitely not last Thursday
Most of that time is irrelevant to me. Let’s just start it in 1970. And I need more precision, so can we do milliseconds instead of seconds?
This would go great with my idea of everyone having a GUID instead of a name.
Maybe where you’re sitting. But my frame of reference has had slightly different time dilation than yours.
Let’s just switch to metric time. https://metric-time.com/
We’re on Metric time already, the base unit of measure for time in the Metric system is the second. This is decimal time.
Ugh I can hear it now
In our relentless pursuit of innovation, we are proud to announce the switch from the outdated 24-hour clock to Metric Time™.
Effective immediately, your standard 8-hour workday will now be… 8 metric hours.
That’s 80% of the entire day. Because nothing says “work-life balance” like leaving 2 hours for life.
Embrace the future. You’re already late.
Holy shit, that actually looks so neat and organized, I want it 😭
Only noobs start counting at 1. Midnight = 24:00 = 00:00
Alright, I’m calling a 4.1666666666666666666666666666 metric hour meeting to discuss this!
The meeting might run to a full 5 metric hours.
“Hey sweetie, please come home by Hour 89.58333333/100 otherwise I’m gonna have to ground you for a week, love you!”
Its possible to create a new time format/ system, the problem is how to standardise it everywhere
Easy, use the metric time.
9:30 PM would just become Hour 89.58333333/100 of the day 😉
No use imperial, eg. 1 gallon is equal to 2,4899 feet mutliplied with 8,67763 nuggets, therefore you need to work five big mac longer
maybe this is because i grew up in a house that had a clock with hands but no numbers, but wth do you mean “the 6 means 30”.
analogue clocks consists of two progress bars. the numbers are just for convenience.
When the minutes hand is over the 6, 30 minutes have passed
whoosh!
There is no six. Clock faces have big and little ticks and a 12 maybe.
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3π/2
Poor lad never learned the code
Babylonians: I see this as a complete win.
Clocks are based on sundials. The little hand roughly follows where a shadow would be. The rest is just what people agreed on made the most sense.
The 6 means 6, 18, AND 30.
At least they are all divisible by 6.
God I’d hope so. Imagine how bad you’d have to fuck up time to make it not :)
Haven’t seen this one this week. Thanks
Isn’t this a standup routine?
