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Prosecutors highlighted “about $10,000 — $8,000 in U.S. dollars and then $2,000 in foreign currency that was found on his person,” CNN correspondent Danny Freeman said following the court hearing.
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
After prosecutors made the claims, Mangione said he would like to “correct two things.”
“I don’t know where any of that money came from — I’m not sure if it was planted. And also, that bag was waterproof, so I don’t know about criminal sophistication,” the suspect said in a statement that suggested police framed him.
Authorities are desperately trying to make an example of someone, anyone with a motive. Turns out more than half the country has one.
I’m the one who killed the dude actually. Remember? You were there. ;)
No, I’m Luigi.
No, I’m Luigi!
No itsa me, Luigi.
Ah shaddap you face.
Wassa matta you?
I’m that baby daddy
It-a-was-a-me, Mario!
Number one!
Go Weegee! Go Weegee! Oh yeah! Oh yeah!
No, this is Patrick.
Wait
I mean I am Spartacus
Wait
And my axe!
hold on
Hodor hodor hodor
Yarp
I’m Batman?
Hodor? Hodor? Hold-uhdoor?
So I wore a hoodie and wore a mask. I also smiled once on CCTV. Am I the secret assassin?
Secret assassin of my heart, baby.
❤️
I broke the dam.
Ryan started the fire.
the way they portray him and the tone of the whole thing is just so fucking slimy
“Do you realize how much money the wealthy are losing right now?”
“OMG how could a person born into wealth that is clearly incredibly intelligent, ever think about doing something like this? There are better ways to slowly let millions of people die over denied coverage and ignore it. How could he.”
They’re now also blaming Among Us for training him into an assassin, apparently.
LOL “quick, do the ‘it was video games!’ distraction “
So thin and weak
Of this is true… Damn. Two thoughts come to mind when reading this.
- Rockstar Games has done so little with GTA for such a long time it is no longer the default ‘turn kids into criminals’-simulator.
- I am fucking old.
Remember when Jack Thompson was relevant? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
All those kids that started playing GTA too young are now grown and taking it out on society because they don’t have a new GTA to work through their urges in.
If you dont remember shooting lines of Elvis impersonators with an above head view and bullets that projectiles slowly across the screen, you’re not that old
I bet he knows the hacker 4chan too
smh the sus guy strikes again, this time out of retirement
A game with “500+ M downloads” on google play, plus like a dozen other platforms it’s on.
If 0.001% of among us players became CEO assassins, I don’t think we’d have any CEOs left.
UnitedHealth Group has lost $45 billion in value since CEO Killing
“Do you realize how much the wealthy are losing right now?”
Clearly, not nearly enough.
“Hey! This guy doesn’t worship the Dollar! Slander him!”
They can call us inhumane but they’re the ones who got us thinking of human lives in dollar values
They can’t have us realize its that easy to take our country back from the corporations that own it or their entire power structure and caste society comes crashing down.
This whole thing is sooo fucking smelly. So, so very smelly
Dont post pictures of headliness. Post links to the articles.
I mean those weren’t screenshots of headlines, they were a significant portion of the articles. At the time though it was just coming from CNN’s live coverage page, which I tried to link to above
The reason you need to give links isn’t because its not showing all the text. Its to prevent misinformation and to let people who are blind be able to read the article.
Sure, agreed, I posted screenshots on the fly as I saw the info. That being said is it was a “live feed” page and information was being changed on the fly with a single URL
Yes, even more of a reason to supply the link
Turns out more than half the country has one.
Turns out your new president kinda wants to put that half in shackles, too.
Everyone should change their names on all their social medias to Luigi Mangione
Shut up about should and just fucking do it, Luigi Mangione.
Sincerely,
Luigi MangioneEveryone should walk around with Luigi Mangione face masks.
They’ll find 12 of the whitest old women to ever exist and hammer this guy, I can just feel it. The justice system exists for the rich and whoever did this fucked with one of their own.
My Nostradamus prediction of the day is that you are right. They will all miraculously had a great time with the private healthcare syndicates.
That’s the fastest way to get your courthouse blown up
“Also they said that he had a Faraday bag,” which blocks cell signals, a move that prosecutors alleged marked “an indication of criminal sophistication and reason they should hold him on bail,” Freeman continued.
Prosecutors, man. Acting like he had a fucking radio jammer or something.
There have been plenty of articles in popular media recommending Faraday bags for electronic devices. I have them for credit cards and car keys. It’s definitely not evidence of criminal intent.
Interfering with corporate profits! How dare you, filthy plebe!
Shit, any Subaru owner probably has an RFID bag for when they go car camping and don’t want to wake up to a dead battery.
Wait what, tell me more.
looks askance at Outback
The RF key fob very slowly drains the battery if you’re within 10-15 feet of the car.
All modern cars with key fobs react to the key fob, using up battery.
I found another suspect!
There are several of us.
You blocking corporate, that’s illegal. They have the right to take all your information and sell it to the highest bidder
There is so much theft of cars happening because car manufacturers did fucking nothing to improve security. Now a guy with a laptop, and antenna, and radio software can clone your car keys and all they have to do is hang around enough to capture a few of the rolling code changes. They can do it from outside your house and through some obstructions too.
So yeah a Faraday cage of some sort for your car keys is just a good idea now. Guess that makes us all criminals.
Prosecutors are another cog in the wheel of the regime. They only care for one thing is slobbing up the pole.
I am sure this parasite thinks he is going to make a career off this prosecution.
Disgusting
Didn’t you know? Doing anything that interferes with corpos having full access to your profitable information means you’re a criminal.
Prosecutors, man.
Mfs think he Gene Hackman from Enemy of the State.
He had a waterproof wallet lol so spy
A LOT of yesterday’s arrest is REALLY suspicious. Dude who could easily have fled the country (for a lot of reasons) and had done such a great job of covering his tracks is sitting in a mickey d’s with his murder weapon and a manifesto.
But… a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but…) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell. Which… uh doy? And he is mostly focused on the money (super easy to plant) and the “faraday bag”.
As for the faraday bag? A LOT of dry bags (an internal bag you put electronics and valuables into if you are going to hike in the rain or go rafting/boating) have a metal mesh. Because they need to withstand abrasians either from being near other gear (you would be shocked how much jagged metal is in a backpack when you go on a proper alpine overnight) or just being able to survive falling overboard and bouncing on the end of a rope in rapids. And guess what a metal mesh does?
So he presumably got a dry bag of some form to stash his personal shit in while he stashed the second backpack. And I know plenty of hikers and climbers who learn the fun way that the phone they carried “in case someone needs to get a hold of me” had zero signal the entire time it was protected from the rain.
Where is the body camera footage?
Until I see it, all of this shit fake news.
Luigi didn’t do shit. They are just trying to pin it on any Italian guy that fits their narrative
Sure he hates health insurance parasites so does 99% of US.
It ain’t a crime!
Saying Mangione is a hero implies you’re convinced he’s the killer. Not great…
the original scene in the Sopranos is about Christopher Columbus, so…
he hates health insurance parasites so does 99% of US.
That’s a very conservative estimate.
Statistically the 1% are benefiting from the insurance parasites.
Considerably less than that.
“The 1%” is, ironically, a way to protect the elites and keep us divided amongst ourselves. But that ignores the wealth inequality issues and how many people aren’t even “middle class”.
In plenty of states? Making low six figures is already enough to put you as a “one percenter” for your demographic. Especially if you have a partner who makes a similar amount of money. And that scales with cost of living. A couple years ago (during the pandemic) I saw a really good breakdown that basically showed “if you can afford to live on your own, you are probably at least a top 5% earner”
And those people are just as vulnerable to an illness that insurance doesn’t cover.
No. The people benefiting aren’t even the “1%”. It is a ridiculously small percentage of the population.
Because the population of the US is 346.3 million people. One percent of that is about 3.5 million people. You are almost guaranteed to know some “one percenters” and they are probably actually great people who are having a lot of the same struggles as you. Maybe they can afford to buy fast food but they are still only one or two bad days away from being destitute. Which tempers anger and rage and protects the people who actually have the vast majority of the wealth in this country.
My wife and I live on my income (not amazingly but we make do in a suburban part of a lower aide of middle income state) and I’m less than half the 5% threshold for the lowest state.
Somebody got to own all them shares
Please don’t say fake news. You sound like a far right nutjob. We are better than that.
You can call out news as being fake without being right wing buddo. All mainstream media owned by Sinclair is fake. Anything in between has a narrative they’re trying to achieve. If it ain’t journalism, it’s a dead opinion.
95% of what is out is fake news… You can call it what you want.
Also this ain’t about politics. Both sides use the same tactic lol
Yeah lol that’s my point?
Why would someone this meticulous keep the gun that’s could have been ditched? Write out a memefesto like two hours before being caught? Wear the same clothes that could’ve also been directed or burned? This feels like a patsy.
Because, as many of us pointed out, he was never some super meticulous hitman. He exhibited basic knowledge of firearms and got his stalker on like the ceo what got got was a pretty girl who asked to borrow a pencil that one time in biology class. The rest was taking a bus and wearing a face mask most of the time. It was inevitable that he would be caught unless he fled the country.
Mostly this just highlighted how incompetent cops are. And… might be used to further efforts to just use computer vision and rudimentary “AI” to process security camera footage in the future.
As for why he would keep his gun on him? The manifesto kind of says it all (and, to my knowledge, Luigi has not disputed THAT aspect of it). He wanted to get caught. Probably after making it clear he could have escaped if he wanted to (because getting on a flight out of the US would have been trivial).
To be clear. If he were to have disputed the gun and manifesto I would VERY rapidly be on the side of "cops are planting shit yet again’. But the fact that he hasn’t (to my knowledge) while disputing other potentially planted or misinterpreted evidence puts the kibosh on that.
If he wanted to get caught, why would he say the evidence was planted?
He did not say “the” evidence was planted. He said “that” evidence was planted. As in a subset.
And, as I pointed out above, said evidence makes sense. The “faraday bag” is just an intentional misinterpretation. As for the foreign currency? People very much underestimate how much loose cash cops have due to civil forfeiture and it is a really easy way to argue that someone is a flight risk and should not be granted bail.
If he wanted to be caught he could’ve turned himself in though, make it big and public if he wanted that attention.
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Damn. Another Adjustment made, may he never stop Adjusting.
Fall guy, planted by the mob to give the NYPD credit that they aren’t just a bunch of guys with big bellies keystone copping around, probably they have a deal with a mob boss to not bust their child exploitation ring if they have them some dude who can sit in prison
Everyone keeps calling him meticulous and I’m just curious what you found meticulous about it.
His getaway sure was and dropping a bag off that had monopoly money seems more well thought out than “have gun and no change clothes”
I suppose if you think running across the street, riding an e-bike for awhile, and then ditching it in a park is meticulous then we just don’t share a definition of meticulous.
The getaway might not have been as meticulous as the plan leading up to the getaway.
The way he fired off those shots was practiced.
Maybe had more targets that he plans to “depose”? Maybe
You know the funny thing about these “ghost guns” is they are untraceable so you don’t know where they came from. The best way to pin them to someone is to “pin” them to that person. This can be through forensics or proximity. In this case the suspect just happens to have a gun whose origins are unknown. Very convenient.
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But… a lot of his social media history (which is not impossible to fake but…) kind of suggests he was very mentally unwell.
What are you referring to here? I’m not scouring the internet for all the information I can find but everything I’ve seen so far paints the picture of a perfectly sane person who was fed up with a broken system. I see similar sentiments all over the internet literally every day.
Well he also played this game where you act as an assassin called Among Us…
Is there a decent thread on the facts somewhere? I am still trying to wrap my head around how they connected the subject of the shooting video to the subject of the crime stoppers picture. There are so many diffs it’s like a Mad Magazine bit.
Wait, people actually do that on accident? They aren’t just making sure their boss can’t call them?
From the article:
Although a host of eyewitness accounts and video camera footage recorded Mangione’s movements before and after Thompson was killed in New York City on Wednesday, police said they were unable to locate him until a McDonald’s employee identified the suspect at a Pennsylvania franchise nearly a week later.
They should have said “the suspect’s movements” or “the shooter’s movements”. Not “Mangione’s movements”. They are already presuming guilt by saying it was Mangione who was recorded. Newspapers used to be careful about doing this. I think they can be sued for defamation for this, can’t they?
Fuck Chomsky.
They said with no support…
Are you the CEO of a news corporation, bud?
He took Russia’s side in their invasion of Ukraine, which I don’t agree with, but truth is truth and he accurately describes how the media sways public opinion without outright lying.
Can you back up that claim with a link?
I only read Chomsky saying:
- Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a crime.
- The US + Britain have committed far worse atrocities in war (e.g. Iraq, Lebanon, Indochina) than Russia in Ukraine.
- It would be better to attempt de-escalation of the Russia-Ukraine war than to strengthen NATO and continue a proxy war with Russia.
I mean, by your own comment, those aren’t great things. 2 is a whataboutism and 3 is the same as giving concessions to the Nazis and lead to WWII. Concessions have already been given to Russia in regards to their previous invasions of Georgia and Crimea. Give an inch and they’ll take a mile.
Regardless of Chomsky’s stance on Russia and NATO though, he still describes media manipulation acutely. He just has a huge blind spot for when Russia is doing it
I don’t think it’s fair to say 2 is strictly whataboutism, because Chomsky has a founded fear that strengthening NATO as a military power through conflict escalation will lead to worse outcomes in the long run. That’s why it’s relevant to point out NATO war crimes.
As for 3, that’s a fair point, and I would press Chomsky to provide an option for de-escalation that doesn’t involve allowing Russia to keep any Ukrainian soil.
NATO has expanded significantly towards Russia since the SU fell. No nation would be fine with this. Imagine if China started a “defense agreement” with latin American countries. What do you think the US reaction would be to Mexico joining in? Or for a more real and historic example have a look at the Cuban missile crisis.
This does not justify Putins invasion, but comparing this to the appeasement politics towards Hitler doesn’t work, as Hitler wasn’t threatened by British and American troops stationed in Czechoslovakia or Austria.
For a bettet explanation i highly recommend watching some talks of John Mearsheimer, who forsaw a war in Eastern Europe as the result of the security architecture built by the US in the 90s and 2000s.
Sure, but I think you’d understand that I can’t just take pure speculation though. Could you please source your claim so I can consider what you’re saying when you say he “took Russia’s side”.
Would also be curious of the state he was in while saying that if true, as he’s nearly 100 years old at this point if I recall? Even our heroes get frail and wither, not necessarily representative of their true core positions.
I’m gonna guess he slings some porn…
Curious as to why you think this?
I’ve heard he’s a meany, but that’s all I know
It’s an American newspaper, so it’s up to the victim. Canada and EU have much stricter rules.
Maybe Luigi can sue them with all the money people on GoFundMe are desperate to give him.
I mean, if they want to go and taint every potential juror in the country they can go for it.
It seems kinda grey because they’re not saying he committed a crime they are saying that he was in certain camera frames and the police were looking for him. If the police announced a name then the news would be reporting fact. The camera bit could be debatable I think. If they were speaking more about the actions of the crime they’d have to alledge, which they did alledge about his “type” of bookbag.
I could be wrong I just found your comment interesting.
Yeah but by stating as a fact that it was Mangione who was witnessed and recorded they are stating as a fact that he is the killer, which we don’t know yet. That is-- or used to be – a big no no in reporting. But times have changed. Here is a link I found explaining how they are probably opening themselves up to a libel charge with this kind of language.
I think they’re saying it definitely was Mangione who was recorded at the hotel, which if he was checking in/out is pretty easy to prove. From there they lost track of him because they didn’t know his route or he just didn’t show up on any other cameras.
I agree that the wording is likely intentional to imply guilt, but is loose enough that they could claim that isn’t what they were doing.
Was it an employee or a bystander/customer? I’m confused.
All the accounts I’ve read say it was an employee of the McDonald’s who called police. But who knows? Probably one source printed that and then all the others just copied it.
Looks like they are trying hard to rebrand the guy image by publishing pictures where he looks off. How i’m supposed to believe the government has no plan against the people when they pull stunt like this?
Fox news is saying people are supporting him because he’s handsome and we’re all a bunch of shallow morons.
Completely leaving out the fact that that CEO and others like him make decisions everyday to let people suffer and/or die for profit. To buy more yachts or whatever the fuck excessively affluent people do with money. Wipe their ass with it? Use the money from dead cancer patients who hit their lifetime maximum coverage to delicately pat their hemorrhoids clean maybe?
The media is trying so hard to spin this I hope they all get carpal tunnel from typing out all those half truths and outright lies. Then they have their claims for quality of life giving surgery denied. Then maybe they’ll get it.
Fox news spent all of yesterday “just asking questions” about his connection to California to trigger more hate towards liberals where if you read the manifesto he is definitely a sovereign citizen type of person.
They don’t buy that many yachts anymore. They go to space…
Mugshots rarely look good because they want a centered and level profile of your face with a neutral expression in order to capture as much detail as possible. It also might have been a minute since he’s seen a shower or a razor. I wouldn’t call that a conspiracy, there are much more important details at play here than his looks.
they released multiple mugshots, pictures of him in jail and now there are even videos. That’s not normal at all.
Mugshots are also designed to make people look bad because it used to be a way that criminals would use for self promotion. But if they look bad then it has the opposite effect making them seem more animalistic and thus more evil. Also often used in wanted posters if enough photos are available. This has been the case for long before photography was invented with drawings as well.
Otherwise, they’d look more like photo IDs, which have the same requirements and are bad compared to something framed specifically to flatter someone, but not as bad as mugshots. Doesn’t help that most mugshots are taken after long, abusive “interrogation” sessions or other situations that exhaust them rather than immediately upon arrest, but that’s on purpose.
But the tactic to use mugshots as self promotional got popular when photos first came around because if they could get in a good shot, it’s not like the police could afford to take multiple. Film was expensive. And they were put in newspapers and such, so they spread around for free. Just look at the famous criminals of the Wild West era. So police doubled down on making sure the photos looked as bad as possible and it became a popular tactic to use against “famous” criminals. Now it’s used against basically all criminals.
Mugshots are also designed to make people look bad because it used to be a way that criminals would use for self promotion.
Versus now where only presidents use them for self promotion.
Trump’s mugshot sure looked good with the practiced Hitler look that he gave. But of course he had help from the lighting guy who put on an uncommon (for mug shots) sideways light on him, thus giving an even more Hitler look to him.
I’m not convinced either way whether or not he’s the culprit, but I certainly don’t trust the authorities to give him a fair trial.
It seriously would be dismissed as a movie plot due to being too unrealistic…
One thing that lends credence to him being the culprit is that he’s from a well-to-do family, with a Republican state congressman cousin, no less. I would think they would prefer a poor to be their patsy.
They definitely put way more effort into this shooting than any of the others that happened on the same day. Obviously the police are looking for a scapegoat
He hasn’t said he didn’t do it, at least that we have heard. He’s just saying that a lot of the evidence is incorrect. The money is a flight risk, so they can argue to hold without bail. The manifesto, if it’s a plant, is to make him look “crazy,” so people distance (haha, backfire). And the faraday nonsense is to suggest that an ankle monitor would be of no use, so also no bail.
It’s all about holding him at this point.
Not really related but I find it funny that you need money to get bail, but if you have money to pay bail, then you are flight risk and don’t get the option.
Yeah, that’s a whole topic in itself lol. The justice system is not made for the people, it’s made to keep the people from overpowering the ruling class.
And it’s all evidence his lawyers can use in court.
If all the rumors are true that he is in a ton of pain because of a back injury, I’ll bet they go with not guilty by reason of insanity. Pain makes you crazy.
He just needs some therapy. ❤️
Denied due to pre-existing conditions…
Would he end up institutionalized? Like, realistically, what would happen to him?
I’m sure they would send him to a few years in a medical facility. We will see if they want to make an example out of him. But I think that tactic would backfire
Are you suggesting that a simple faraday bag can neutralize an ankle monitor?
Im suggesting that they are suggesting. They don’t have to suggest reality, this is the justice system after all.
It can, insofar as it will make it beep due to lack of signal and will alert the authorities as to your last know position
His lawyer said there is no evidence he is the shooter.
I mean… that’s what they are paid to say.
I read an article where he plead not guilty, or plans to.
The murderer was sloppy though. The best way to murder someone and get away with it is to get elected POTUS. or be the son of a POTUS. Don’t go around committing crimes if you’re a normal citizen, silly.
A computer programmer with a common cyber security countermeasure you can buy on Amazon indicates criminal sophistication?
Sure Jan.
Sure Jan.
Lol, that made my morning.
Nope! It shows Federal crudeness.
Our incoming president is a convicted felon and RAPIST who incited an insurrection and illegally attempted to overturn an election.
The rule of law doesn’t mean shit anymore.
I could give 2 fucks if this guy lies through his teeth to get off the hook. Go for it bro.
My ez-pass transponder came with a faraday bag - clearly ez-pass is a criminal organization
A former employer handed out branded faraday phone and wallet bags as a tchotchke- I must have worked for organized crime.
Oh no, passport faraday bags are all over Amazon - clearly criminal and needs to be shut down
Yeah, prosecutors are really trying to smear this guy to look dangerous. Try harder. An RF-blocking bag is just to prevent theft, hacking and protect privacy. I’m a bit confident he’s the guy but I can’t say beyond a reasonable doubt given the circumstances and how the police are incentivised to frame anyone.
Since news reports keep jumping around between a McDonald’s customer and a McDonald’s employee offering the tip, every inconsistency will only bolster this guy’s case. I can make guesses that this guy wanted to get caught or was a little sloppy, but if he says otherwise then finding everything including the gun is a little suspicious. Get him the best lawyer in the biz, I’m sure crowdfunding will cover it many times over.
I’m sure crowdfunding will cover it many times over
I could be OOTL, but I’m a bit puzzled this isn’t happening at a massive scale given the overwhelming support. Anybody got his official Crowd Funding page or whatever you kids use these days?
The usual platforms have been racing to remove any crowdfunding pages for him.
I’m sure someone would do it Pro bono.
He had Ill will against corporate America, nobody would have that unless they were the killer! Sick evidence coppers!
It makes perfect sense for this to be a frame up because one of the incriminating items was a “Recently Used Ghost Gun”, a cheaply made 3D Printed gun that leaves no special marking on the bullet and can only really be used once. They are made to be used for crimes and discarded quickly, which is why some congressmen want to see restrictions on 3D Printers.
This raises an interesting question: How the fuck is he dumb enough not to dispose of the gun that was meant to be disposed? And has two answers: He’s just that fucking stupid or The evidence was planted
“Ghost gun” is just a pejorative term invented to make “homemade firearm” sound more spooky. You have taken propaganda hook, line, and sinker. The only difference between a “ghost gun” and a regular gun is whether it was serialized by a licensed manufacturer. While there are a few extremely niche homemade guns that could be categorized as “disposable,” the vast majority are Glock- or AR-pattern firearms that use a full complement of factory parts.
It costs as much or more to finish your typical “ghost gun” than it does to build or buy a serialized firearm. They will also typically leave all the marks you’d usually expect on bullets and casings, because all the same parts touch the same way they do in a serialized firearm.
You don’t seem very knowledgeable about the gun used in this situation.
All articles about what was found on him kept mentioning a metal slide and barrel along with a regular Glock mag, that heavily implies it was just a 3d printed Glock lower so basically just a regular Glock. The only way it would “leave no special markings on the bullet” would be if he used a gun with a plastic barrel, but I believe the FBI said shortly after the og liberator was released that it leaves enough plastic behind to be traceable.
In practice the gun is a regular Glock, that would be easily identified as not being legal in a few states. My guess would be that they weren’t getting rid of it because it’s still a perfectly serviceable firearm and he might have been planning on using it again or at least it probably seemed like a good thing to have when he was in fight or flight mode.
If you really want to get rid of evidence the metal barrel is going to be the most important thing to get rid of as far as being linked to a shooting. Ghost gun is just bad in general unless you are in one of the states that says it’s fine
That’s what me and my boy were saying, he was just walking around with this stuff for 3 days? Just a choice really.
cheaply made 3D Printed gun
You could, if you were so inclined, make a rather nice 3D printed gun. Just saying.
that leaves no special marking on the bullet
No firearm on Earth actually does this, not even commercially made ones. The fantasy of “microstamping” has been just that, purest fantasy, ever since it was dreamed up by (I believe) some California legislators that were equally out of touch with reality. Forensic ballistic analysis does not work that way. In almost all cases, you cannot identify a gun by a recovered bullet or casing. You can, however, potentially match a casing or recovered bullet to a gun you already have in your possession.
and can only really be used once.
This is patently false, unless you suck at printing and assembling your gun.
They are made to be used for crimes and discarded quickly
Tons of people design and print their own guns purely as a hobby. Furthermore, before the advent of 3D printers plenty of people manufactured their own firearms without the aid of any such device – again, largely as a hobby or to have complete control over the manufacturing tolerances of their gun. Making highly tuned 1911 “race guns” for competition shooting is and was very popular, for instance.
I’m also sceptical of the ghost gun thing. AFAIK the only real ghost gun is an FGC9 which is about the size of a submachine gun and is definitely not what is seen in the video.
You’re unaware of the existence of 3d printed Glock lowers? That’s all it was
What’s the point in those beyond a tech demo though? Don’t they use so much of the donor gun that it’s effectively no different to just scrubbing the serial number but with a lot more effort?
The point is you can theoretically assemble a functional Glock this way without leaving a paper trail. The lower (or frame, really) is the serial numbered part that carries all the Federal paperwork. You can mail order the rest of the parts without raising any eyebrows, do a bunch of assembly and fitting and tuning and fettling, and then wind up with a functional gun.
I will point out that this is actually legal to do on a Federal basis, although some states have since individually passed laws against it.
But just wait until I tell you that any moron can walk into a Bass Pro shops and buy a perfectly functional and lethal black powder cap-and-ball revolver in pretty much any state in the union with no paperwork. According to the ATF, they are not interested in classifying arms that do not used “fixed cartridge ammunition” a firearms at all (although most states do).
The difference is (in most jurisdictions), it’s legal to do the first and illegal to do the second. If you are already a criminal, there’s only one part of a gun that’s a gun, and that’s the only part that’s illegal to sell you.
Wait. Does that mean sellers are not obliged to track sales of uppers and barrels and the rest? Yeah I can see why lawmakers are pissed off now lol.
Yup, the US only regulates “guns.” Which is the part of the assembled firearm that has the serial number. Everything else is a “gun part,” which for the most part, are not controlled.
So if you can acquire/manufacture the “gun” you can buy the rest of the “gun parts” on eBay.
And the 3d printing part is not relevant.
There is no national firearm registry and manufacturers are not required to track parts or kits. So you can “build your own” weapon without traceable serial numbers - regardless of whether you use 3d printing to create one or more parts
A parts kit always needs a lower. The lower is the part that is considered the gun legally and is registered and serialized normally. 3D printing the lower is what makes it relevant
The more they keep fuxking with the facts, the more this makes sense.
I just hope tomorrow a video alibi comes out of him jerking off on camera in Philly at 7am that Wednesday
The whole narrative will crumble and the working class will see what they really do to us.
Jerking off in front of a street camera at 7am on a Wednesday does sound like a Philly activity.
“The Gang Cranks One Out”
“The gang executes a CEO”
“So anyway, we all just started blastin’.”
Remind me to backdate an OnlyFans broadcast as an alaby for my next crime. This is great, thanks
What if you find shooter’s backpack ditched in park with jacket, gun, silencer, and fake ID used at hostel, but say it only had a jacket and monopoly money. And say that the guy probably left the state on a bus. Now you can pretty much do anything you want with any plausible-looking guy in the country you want.
I’m just asking questions! Also, most of the bags and purses you see for sale these days have a “faraday” phone bag or pocket in them, no level of sophistication required.
Since this involves the murder of a high-ranking CEO, rather than an ordinary joe schone, the police might resort to unconventional or potentially illegal investigative methods to track down the suspect. They could then potentially plant evidence to secure a conviction, as they may be unwilling or unable to disclose the investigative techniques used.
