Bernie on the right side of history as usual
If Hillary’s primary team hasn’t taken over the DNC, we’d be coming out of term 2 of Bernie with one of the most progressive Supreme Courts in modern history…
Like just stop for a second and think about how much shit would be different if we took the slam dunk of Bernie against trump in 2016, instead of trying to cram Hillary Clinton down America’s throats.
We were this fucking close to a functional society
But instead the corporate side of the party would rather lose an election and blame Sanders and the Greens for losing. Same thing in 2000. Nader gave Gore a list of policies and said he’d drop out and endorse him if he just promised to implement just 2 of those policies. Instead of doing that, he chose to lose, and then 9/11 and the Iraq war happened, setting off an unprecedented loss of civil liberties and law enforcement abuses under Bush (and I would still say that Bush Jr was probably worse than Trump in terms of body counts and terrible policies that are still in place).
He would rather be on the left side though.
He supported the bombing of civilians in Yugoslavia.
If there is one thing you can accuse Bernie of, it is definitely not being a good human.
Edit: Welp I totally fucked up and said that wrong and then went to sleep. I intended that to be a double negative and missed the double part. I caucused for Bernie and I think he is one of the most amazing people to ever live. Sorry guys, I goofed big time and I deserve the downvotes for my fuck up.
Think you’re missing a “nt” or have an extra “not” there…
Edit: don’t worry too much about it, happens to the best of us 😁
Can you elaborate that?
Ooof, this is why I don’t play with grammatical structure before bedtime.
Also that’s why you should avoid using double negatives.
But I like living dangerously…just not before bedtime.
You might not understand where you are saying such wrong things.
Weak troll bait. Great job refusing to elaborate
Great job refusing to elaborate
Some people aren’t on Lemmy 24/7 and can take a while to respond.
To give you the benefit of the doubt, which I don’t think you deserve, homie got several replies immediately. They’re obviously a troll, and apparently so are you
ETA: lmao you’re a fucking Russian foreign actor, looking at your post history. Why did I bother replying to a government bot
They’re obviously a troll
They probably just made a typo.
Edit: Everyone loves Bernie, so it’s probably just a typo. But even if it’s not, why would that suggest that they’re a troll? Isn’t it possible that they just don’t like Bernie? Maybe they’re a Clinton-stan, or a Zionist. Why assume they’re a troll? I don’t see any trolling in their comment history.
Not every opinion you disagree with is a troll. This is insane. The paranoia on Lemmy.world about trolls is off the charts.
You were right!
I had a feeling that the polyamourous Oregonian who watches Supernatural and campaigns for ranked choice voting might be a fan of Bernie.
Yes, everyone on Lemmy except you is a Russian foreign actor. Sorry you had to find out this way.
What? How? When?
There’s an alternate timeline where Bernie won in 2016 and restored the middle class in America. Living wages, affordable housing, affordable everything, universal healthcare, and a common sense foreign policy.
I’m not saying he’s perfect. He would have made mistakes. But he would have been the best president since FDR.
There’s an alternate timeline where he wins and can’t get anything through because there aren’t enough progressive Dems in the senate.
Or where upon it seems he’ll be blocked, he goes individually to each of the blocking members states or districts, and campaigns his ideas directly to those who will be most affected, both upsetting precedent and dra international attention to individuals blocking the legislation.
You act like there wasn’t a plan. I assure you , there was a plan.
In that case, Bernie’s executive orders would have blotted out the sun. How do courts strike down student loans being forgiven under a new legal theory every month?
It doesn’t take too many traitors to the party to ruin any attempts at passing progressive legislation sadly. Even if it’s not the usual suspects like Sinema or Manchin someone will always step up, and if they don’t get voted back into office later then they’ll just cash in those connections with a lobbying firm.
And yet it’s a better timeline than what happened when Clinton was too bad at being a politician to beat Trump.
In no timeline would it be worse though.
Ha. This guy hasn’t heard of nukes
If i remember right, he said if he won he would go to places like WV and hold rallies demanding senators help his agenda or he’d back their primary challengers. That’s the kind of guts I’d like to have seen
Thank you Bernie for having both sense and moral courage. I mean it’ll fail to pass because almost everyone else are bastards, but thank you anyway.
I think it helps to force a vote on unpopular things they might not otherwise admit.
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White genocide isn’t a thing, dipshit. Now go be a racist somewhere else - preferably in Hell.
Weirdo
It’s not a ‘sale’. It’s a handout to the welfare apartheid state, while Americans are wondering why their roads are falling apart, their education sucks and no universal health care.
Tell that to the arms companies that are supplying about 5 bil worth of stuff for 20 bil of taxpayer’s money
It is a sale. US policy now is get the hell away from the Middle East. If Israel wants to fight, we can sell them weapons, but we won’t be sending our soldiers to fight their wars. This is why we also pushing so hard for EVs.
As for roads and education that’s actually covered local government and local taxes.
The reason we don’t have universal healthcare is because Republicans consistently block it (they even trying over and over remove ACA). Universal healthcare not only wouldn’t cost us more it would actually be cheaper to what we have right now.
It is a sale.
If I give you $400 per week for 5 weeks and tell you to spend it at my store, and you come in and buy $2000 worth of stuff… did I actually make a sale?
A government is not a business and doesn’t operate as one.
This is why, for example if government starts spending money to improve infrastructure, like fixing bridges, building rail etc it causes GDP to grow. This is also the reason when during recession there’s a lot of projects like that. It simulates the economy.
we won’t be sending our soldiers to fight their wars
Lol sure.
we also pushing so hard for EVs
Lol Part Deux. Yes, America is leading the way in EV adoption while phasing out big, gas-guzzling trucks and SUVs as rapidly as humanly possible.
Universal healthcare not only wouldn’t cost us more it would actually be cheaper to what we have right now.
Congratulations on not being completely wrong in your comment.
I like taxes. I want them to fund things in my community. I don’t want them paying for the deaths of an entire people.
It’s an arms sale.
Okay, I refuse to have my tax funded weapons to be used for any genocide, paid or otherwise. Sorry we needed to clarify.
…using the $4 billion per year we give them on the condition they use it to buy weapons from us. Sooo…
Bernie is a national treasure. His qualities as a politician and as a human being are going be recognized by the generations to come.
If we don’t elect more people like him quick, I’m afraid future generations will see us as all the same.
I hope future generations know that amidst all that is happening, there are those of us who are fighting back, even against terrible odds. There have always been people like that, and I hope there always will be
The ethical compass of Congress.
Bernie should have been president.
I wish Bernie would weaponize the filibuster the way Rand Paul does to block these things. I’m glad his heart is in the right place and I’m glad he does these things, but he doesn’t want to play dirty and it’s 2024, you need to play dirty when they’re willing to.
The problem with using the filibuster is that it only works when you know the other side doesn’t have 67% in the senate. With both the democratic and republican parties being in the pocket of AIPAC, I suspect they could easily get the votes to break Bernie’s filibuster.
Maybe, but I feel like it’s worth a try.
It’ll at least get them on the record so they can be the bad guys in the documentary later.
If anything could get the Democrats to actually get rid of the filibuster, it would be blocking weapons for genocide.
My dude, Bernie did a 8.5 hour filibuster and was coherent and on point the whole time, no phone book reading https://youtu.be/pm6qy_9E0rY
That’s sort of my point…
You don’t need to do that to filibuster anymore. And Rand Paul doesn’t.
Give it all to Ukraine instead.
Fuck Israel. Fuck putin.
Convince Israel that the Palestinians have resettled in Russia.
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I see this differently. For decades US was involved in the Middle East. Trying to preserve peace and of course get the sweet sweet oil. As we know it failed. Peace isn’t easy when the fighting sides’ goal is to wipe out each other.
US decided that enough is enough, and is very open saying that it wants or of it. It pushes EVs and so is EU.
Bibi is trying to start a war in the region, hoping that it will force US to get into yet another war. US is not taking the bait and its position is that if Israel wants a war, we can sell them weapons, but they are on their own.
This is contrast to trump who openly advocates to get our soldiers involved to help Israel.
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“I will never hesitate to take whatever action is necessary to defend our forces and our interests against Iran and Iran-backed terrorists.”
That’s not the same as “I will help Israel with reaching their goals”. It is clear that what she was saying is that if Iran or Iran-backed proxies attack US military they will get a “proportionate” response.
How very antisemiti…oh, hang on…
Have we proof of bernies bar mitzva? Show us your bar mitzva card Bernie!
But please think about the shareholders!
The Jew Bernie Sanders is ANTISEMITIC!
Lets go Bernieee
It won’t work, but bless his actual heart for trying.
Thank you, Senator Bernard Sanders. You rock and you’re my hero.
