• superkret@feddit.org
    322·
    17 days ago

    Statistically, there were likely 4 more murders in NYC since this one, I’m sure they’re investigating those just as thoroughly.

        • EleventhHour@lemmy.worldEnglish
          141·
          16 days ago

          Or JK Simmons nonchalantly implying that maybe the CEO deserved it, and that makes the killer the most sane of anyone.

          • terraborra@lemmy.nz
            25·
            16 days ago

            He did deserve it though. We also shouldn’t stop at Health Insurance CEOs, we need to make oil company execs fear for their lives for the damage they are doing to the environment.

    • pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz
      72·
      16 days ago

      To put that in perspective:

      All numbers from 2023

      NYC:

      • 8.25 million inhabitants
      • 386 murders

      Austria:

      • 9.13 million inhabitants
      • 72 murders
  • john89@lemmy.ca
    1951·
    16 days ago

    If he had killed any of us, the cops wouldn’t give a shit.

    Remember that.

  • NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
    184·
    17 days ago

    I love how they’re using the full force of their resources to catch this guy, but a random murder they put two detectives on for a few months, shrug and close the case.

  • AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldEnglish
    177·
    17 days ago

    In addition to looking for the killer, police are still searching for a motive as to why someone would kill Thompson.

    This is definitely where they need to focus their resources first.

    • xmunk@sh.itjust.works
      51·
      16 days ago

      Honestly? Yea probably. It’d be fucking amazing if the police ended up releasing a report on just how much UHC fucked this guy or his family/friends over.

    • Infynis@midwest.socialEnglish
      44·
      16 days ago

      It’s clear they haven’t even given it a first look. The guy put the title of the book on the bullet casings

    • DancingBear@midwest.social
      33·
      16 days ago

      Yes. It is extremely bizarre how something like this could happen.

      Especially since the president elect already said he could do the same thing one block over, four years ago

    • Radioactive Butthole@reddthat.comEnglish
      61·
      16 days ago

      I mean for all we know it has nothing to do with healthcare premiums. The guy could be a fellow board member who got boned out of a bonus or something.

      • floofloof@lemmy.caEnglish
        10·
        16 days ago

        The message on the bullets would suggest otherwise. To me that seems like an attempt to preempt speculation that the motive had nothing to do with insurance company fuckery.

        • Radioactive Butthole@reddthat.comEnglish
          9·
          16 days ago

          Could just as easily be a red herring.

          I mean, most likely it isn’t internal insurance drama, but it could be.

          Besides, how amazing would it be for the cops to say “yeah so we researched this and it was definitely a retaliation execution for all the lives he murdered in his quest for money and power”. Talk about putting the billionaire class on alert haha

        • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
          4·
          16 days ago

          Tbf, that’s the largest pool of potential suspects, so it makes sense that they’d want to call police attention in that direction regardless of the actual motive. I do think it’s genuine, but it’s a smart move either way

      • elbucho@lemmy.worldEnglish
        52·
        17 days ago

        They’re likely just going to execute him when they find him so as to not allow that. Say he was brandishing or something.

        • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
          21·
          16 days ago

          It would only make sense for him to turn himself in while accompanied by his lawyer after releasing a statement that he will be doing so. Even so, eventually he’s going to be alone in police custody and I’d be surprised if he survives that for long.

    • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
      11·
      16 days ago

      And you don’t have to ask him why he is running. It’s perfectly legal to help a stranger in need without asking them if they broke the law. In fact, it used to be seen as the most Christian thing to do by not judging.

    • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
      17100·
      17 days ago

      Aiding and abetting murder can result in the same charges and penalties as the principal offender, which could include life in prison without parole

      • Jaderick@lemmy.world
        962·
        17 days ago

        Your statement could be true, but the way you’re presenting it sounds like you’re just letting the oppressors win.

      • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
        661·
        17 days ago

        This isn’t true. Harboring someone from the police after they commit a crime makes you an accessory, not a primary.

        Edit: to be more concrete and actually cite what I’m saying (my bad), we’ll use federal law since they clearly crossed state lines multiple times in the stages of committing this act of heroism crime:

        An accessory after-the-fact is someone who, knowing a crime was committed, receives, relieves, comforts, or assists the offender or in any manner aids them to escape arrest or punishment. See: U.S. v. Triplett, 92 F.2d 1174 (5th Cir. 1991). The aid provided by the defendant to the principal must be given after the principal completes the crime.

        The basic elements the government must demonstrate to prove that a defendant was an accessory after-the-fact are: (1) the commission of an underlying crime against the United States; (2) the defendant’s knowledge of that offense; and (3) assistance by the defendant in order to prevent the apprehension, trial, or punishment of the offender. See: U.S. v. White, 135 S. Ct. 1573, 191 L. Ed. 2d 656 (2015); Ellis v. U.S., 806 F. Supp. 2d 538 (E.D. N.Y. 2011).

      • superkret@feddit.org
        431·
        17 days ago

        I’m sorry I don’t watch the news, so I have no idea who this person on my couch is, he just looked like a good guy who does good things.

      • Optional@lemmy.world
        9·
        17 days ago

        Me to the judge: He said he was my cousin Paddy!

        Me to the shooter: You lied to me! *wangs him with a skillet*

        problem solved.

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
          34·
          17 days ago

          I’m not too fussed about the AI, to be honest. It’ll just declare that it has 14,986 suspects who “definitely” did it, most of whom will just coincidentally turn out to be black.

          The odds of them being able to definitively tie a face to a name in a single stroke are pretty remote. The investigation strategy will probably revolve around tracking down where he went and how he got there. If he rode a bus, they will investigate who was on that bus. Same if he took a plane. Or if he hired an Uber, or whatever. Whose credit cards were used to purchase tickets, whose cell phones were tracked in those locations at those times, etc. Wasn’t he on a rental bike? They will try to track payment methods for those rental bikes. Etc.

          Even with all their manpower and spy technologies and cell phone spoofing towers and dogs and any amount of shiny badges, the cops can’t clear a solve rate for murders in the US that’s any better than 50%. So there’s a coin-toss chance this guy didn’t go out of his way to do anything right and still walks away.

            • Zron@lemmy.world
              4·
              17 days ago

              I didn’t know you could use cash for rental bikes.

              All the ones in Chicago need the app in order to rent them.

              • Nougat@fedia.io
                9·
                17 days ago

                Could you do it with a burner phone and load the app from a Visa gift card? Rent and place the city bike around the corner, do the deed, drop the phone (whether on accident or on purpose), take off on the bike.

              • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
                1·
                14 days ago

                Businesses in NYC love cash. Shops everywhere have discounts for paying in cash. There are ATMs everywhere with $1 or less fee.

          • snooggums@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            16 days ago

            the cops can’t clear a solve rate for murders in the US that’s any better than 50%.

            That is averaged between the murders they don’t care about and the ones they put effort into. It isn’t thst every individual murder has a 50% chsnce of being solved.

  • Juice@midwest.social
    76·
    16 days ago

    Oh shit, a crime the cops actually have to solve, haha, can’t just frame some poor sap this time gotta do some actual detective work. I hope they never catch him and the PD gets defunded. I know its NYC and they need cops but I think they could use a haircut at least

    • Death_Equity@lemmy.world
      37·
      16 days ago

      They can’t even blame a brown or black person, this is SSS rank detective work and they are a one-legged Kickboxer in this match.

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
      22·
      16 days ago

      I’m entirely unconvinced that anyone needs the thugs with badges. Multiple studies have shown that every single time that the NYPD pulls a “blue flu,” the crime rate drops, significantly. As far as I can tell, the thugs with badges cause a significant amount of the crime in this country.

      • Juice@midwest.social
        3·
        16 days ago

        I agree, but if one day we abolished all cops, people in NYC especially would freak out. Hell some cops would probably do a bunch of crime to prove a point. Its not a demand that people like very much, . I think the police as a force that absolutely only exists to protect private property of the owning class, and I don’t know if you wanna hear my “nuanced” opinions and I don’t know if they’re worth very much. But I think that the police as a reactive force needs to be handled tactically in order to protect people who are protesting and force through demands. By and large I agree with Farrell Dobbs analysis in teamster rebellion was, during a political rebellion such as the 1934 Minneapolis teamster strike, the state of a police department changes daily and must be evaluated daily based on primarily their numbers. It would be great for left wing mass movements to make demands on the ruling class if that number was zero, but that’s unrealistic and most people know it.

    • beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      14·
      15 days ago

      We all watched them sit around for an hour knowing small children were dying inside a school. We know exactly what they’re made of

  • procrastitron@lemmy.world
    67·
    16 days ago

    It’s already been two and a half days. The longer they go without catching him the less likely it will be that they do.

    The fact that they are issuing a wider manhunt seems to back that up.

    Given the publicity, I’m sure that they’ll catch a guy, but I’m skeptical that they’ll catch that guy.

    • Rakonat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      40·
      16 days ago

      Hate to burst the bubble but this guy threatened the illusion that the billionaire class is untouchable. The ultra-rich are going to be leaning heavily on all the politicians and officials they helped put into position to ensure this guy gets caught no matter the cost, and ensure he’s made an example of.

      It might not be the NYPD or any other civil police department, but you can bet NSA & FBI leadership is getting multiple phone calls demanding they get involved and go over every piece of information related to the shooting they can get till they identify the killer. The ultra-rich won’t let this one slide as one of their own was publicly murdered, so they won’t stop at anything to ensure the killer’s character is publicly murdered so that anyone who tries to copycat or get ideas can equally be ostracized as an outcast.

      • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
        5·
        16 days ago

        The dude that got shot wasn’t a billionaire, not even close. With a net worth of $54 million he’s just as much of a peasant to them as we are.

        • Wiz@midwest.social
          6·
          15 days ago

          He wasn’t a billionaire, but he was filthy sticking rich, and made his money by causing untold stress and harm on other people.

          I mean his company was already notoriously evil when he was just a high-ranking executive. But he took the helm, and wanted more money by being crueler than that.

          • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            15 days ago

            Fine, he was a bad dude, but a millionaire getting shot doesn’t “shatter the illusion that billionaires are untouchable” any more than you or me getting shot would

            • FindME@lemmy.myserv.oneEnglish
              3·
              15 days ago

              I think you might be wrong there. How much conversation was happening a week ago about actually killing rich folks? I saw it occasionally here on lemmy in the form of ‘eat the rich.’ Out in my meatspace conversations though? Never. There might have been a grumble once a year, or they might agree with a statement about the elite political and financial class not caring about harm done to anyone else. In the last few days, even my normiest of normal friends has been talking about it, even if not directly. Most of the comments aren’t putting the rich in a positive light either.

              This event has sparked a great deal of thought about death and taxes.

      • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
        3·
        16 days ago

        Even if they catch him and hang him, it doesn’t mean that he didn’t accomplish his goal.

        If you’re trying to show your untouchable, revenge won’t prove that.

    • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      47·
      16 days ago

      He’s not getting a jury. They’re going to cut him down and say he shot himself so his legacy will be that he was a coward . At least that will be the attempt but it seems like everyone will know better

      • Doorbook@lemmy.world
        19·
        15 days ago

        This exactly my thought. They will do everything to make him crazy or suicidal.The good thing is that someone leak what he wrote on the casing. This makes it clear he is socially motivated. Hopefully, if they ever close in, he will have an online stream up.

      • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
        51·
        16 days ago

        He should walk naked into a major TV studio carrying nothing, ask them to call the cops. Force them to accept a surrender.

      • granolabar@kbin.melroy.org
        5·
        15 days ago

        Most Americans didn’t see any crime…

        You are assuming that this saint protector of the working people could be presumably guilty of a crime

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          3·
          15 days ago

          Oh no, I’m not talking about this case. Just in general, it’d be good of Americans to inform themselves on that.

        • Dasus@lemmy.world
          24·
          16 days ago

          Good luck going though the search history of every single person up for jury selection.

          Also, a “private window” won’t lean jack shit, just means your local personal files won’t save what you do. Cookies and Google and whatnot still do.

          If you want to be anon, use TOR with VPN or at least a VPN.

          • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
            2·
            14 days ago

            If people with intelligence and empathy skip out on jury duty, that leaves idiots and sociopaths to judge the accused.

            • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
              2·
              14 days ago

              Well unfortunately I have a job and a mortgage. If the trial goes longer than the few days that my employer is forced to pay me, and I’m stuck with the $50 a day the state pays, I’m fucked. I don’t consider living on the street a civic duty.

              • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
                2·
                14 days ago

                That’s fair and I’ve had to bail on jury duty for the same reason, although I was able to participate once.

  • RangerJosie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    60·
    16 days ago

    By all means do. I can’t wait to hear this man’s story.

    And good luck getting a conviction. Jury Nullification go brrrrr

    • MagicShel@lemmy.zipEnglish
      43·
      16 days ago

      Wouldn’t that be something? If the people collectively decided, “Nah this is fine. This was reasonable.”

      I doubt it but that would be beautiful.

      • frezik@midwest.social
        15·
        16 days ago

        Could even stop before it gets that far. It’ll be difficult to convene a jury with so many candidates dismissed for saying “nah, fuck health insurance CEOs”.

      • WoodScientist@lemmy.world
        4·
        16 days ago

        I wouldn’t rely on nullification. I instead think this guy deserves a full pardon. We pardon domestic abuse victims who kill their abusers, is this situation really so different?

        • Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          2·
          15 days ago

          There’s no one part of the system we should rely on. What I say I do so with hope in the full knowledge that we’re likely to see the corruption re-assert itself.

      • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
        101·
        15 days ago

        Yup, this is my concern. They’ll claim he resisted during their no-knock raid, and they had no choice but to execute him in his bed. And all of the body footage will be “accidentally” scrubbed, or every single officer “forgot” to turn their body cams on.

        “The assassin didn’t resist” is going to be the new “Epstein didn’t kill himself.”

    • Nalivai@lemmy.world
      23·
      16 days ago

      I think they can just move it as a judgement as a matter of law, or whatever else rule applies. It was a pretty clear case afterall

  • x00z@lemmy.worldEnglish
    60·
    16 days ago

    200 pics are big boy words.

    That’s at least 10 seconds of video footage at 20 FPS.

  • mercano@lemmy.world
    52·
    16 days ago

    If they do find him, the prosecutors are going to have a hell of a time trying to weed out anyone interested in jury nullification.

    • jettrscga@lemmy.world
      712·
      16 days ago

      Incorrect. You’re in a social media bubble.

      The average person who gets chosen for jury duty somehow won’t know who this guy is despite reports on every media outlet. It blows my mind how oblivious those people can be.

      • AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works
        271·
        16 days ago

        Yuuuup. Like that spike in Google searches for “did Biden drop out” or whatever during the week leading up to the election. A lot of people live with their head in the sand.

      • sudo42@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        16 days ago

        In that case the jury conversation will go something like this: “I wonder why the judge won’t allow anyone to know the victim’s occupation?”
        The second the jury finds out this guy was a health-insurance CEO, half of them will shrug and go “time served”.

    • capital@lemmy.world
      31·
      16 days ago

      If I asked every single person I’m on a first name basis with what jury nullification was I bet a large sum of money that none of them would have an answer.