This is not a shitpost.
It didn’t just take “Hitler’s death” for Germans to be able to vote again. It wasn’t a case of “oh look, he’s dead, now we can go back to democracy”. It took over a decade of political terror and violence, a devastating world war, and one of the most organised campaigns of mass murder and genocide in history.
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The Democratic platform if they actually acted to stop the rise of fascism and codified basic human rights:
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Hitler was appointed chancellor by Hindenburg. He wasn’t voted in by the people.
Even setting aside the bit of history where the SDP party rallied around Hindenburg because of their deep and abiding fear of the Evil Russian Backed KDP party (god damn, everything old really is new again), there were three different elections from July of '32 to March of '33. The Nazis took 37% of the seats in July, dipped down to 32% in November, and then jumped to 43% the following March.
And then, what really kicked off martial law was the Reichstagg fire, which was blamed on Tankie Antifa Far-Left Communists and used to justify a Nazi-lead state of martial law. Liberals, Conservatives, and Fascists all united under a single banner in their staunch hatred of German Communism.
This was decades after German military police and Freikorps paramilitary groups under Hindenburg crushed the Spartacus League during the 1919 strike wave. The leaders of the movement - Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, and Franz Mehring - were executed by the police and the organizations disbanded under threat of further imprisonment/execution.
This, in comparison to the Beer Hall Pustch four years later, in which Hitler’s band of low-ranking military officers were tossed in the drunk tank for nine months, before returning to politics and rapidly climbing the ranks on the basis that he’d been martyred by (((bad Germans))) who secretly controlled the government.
Gotta wonder how this compares to the 2014 BLM protests, the subsequent police crackdown, and then the string of BLM leadership “suicides” where members of the movement shot themselves in the head right before being incinerated in their cars. Or the widespread bipartisan/corporate efforts to suppress labor activism in the rail, shipping, and Amazon distribution centers, the automotive industry, and the Starbucks-centric food service sectors.
Or the feeble efforts by US government officials to arrest/convict J6ers, the hand-slap sentencing of Alex Jones and Steve Bannon, and the stubborn refusal to federally prosecute Donald Trump.
Oh well, anyways!
There is a good reason why it starts with “first they came for the communists”
Yeah we have a lot more in common with pre third Reich Germany than people want to talk about and it’s not just a voting for a crazy shouting lunatic thats making the comparison so eerily similar.
The staunch refusal to try and go left and actually make things better and give people to rally behind is gonna do a lot of the heavy lifting of moving people to the right and it’s not appreciated or understood by the people who make the memes about voting for Biden regardless of anything.
That does depend on who is making those memes. The bad faith propaganda meant to further divide the population targets all sides of all issues and it’s another very divisive issue. Any time I see someone making what should be a good point but in a way that will instead increase resistance, I suspect that’s what’s going on. It’s not a certain way to determine if that’s happening; anyone who has read How to Win Friends and Influence People knows that our instincts about persuasion are bad even before any bad faith is involved.
Shit, the Freikorps immediately turned around after murdering the Spartacus League and overthrew the SPD government who sent them out. The Kapp Putsch. And the SPD compromised with them.
because of their deep and abiding fear of the Evil Russian Backed KDP party (god damn, everything old really is new again)
You missed the moment where NSDAP and German communists kinda had intersecting constituencies, as in “angry young people with nothing good to do”.
Many stormtroopers were members of both at different points of their, eh, path.
And then, what really kicked off martial law was the Reichstagg fire,
Which was almost certainly a false flag operation by Nazis.
Liberals, Conservatives, and Fascists all united under a single banner in their staunch hatred of German Communism.
Such parallels always suck. They didn’t really have liberals in the Weimar republic. It was all conservatives, monarchists, nationalists, and some fishy social-democrats. And it was kinda authoritarian at every point.
This was decades after German military police and Freikorps paramilitary groups under Hindenburg crushed the Spartacus League during the 1919 strike wave. The leaders of the movement - Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, and Franz Mehring - were executed by the police and the organizations disbanded under threat of further imprisonment/execution.
Yep. You might consider that such a republic shouldn’t be so readily compared to the US.
I’m not saying future is cool.
We got monarchists. We got nationalists. We got conservatives. And most USians hate communism as an internalized educational message become reflex. We are not that far apart chronologically, either.
And not to mention the bunds and many American industrialists were very horny for Hitler not all that long ago. Those families didn’t go anywhere.
This may happen, but not the same way, all I can say.
2014 BLM protests? You’re almost a decade early there
Are we going to ignore the Ferguson protests after the police slaying of Michael Brown?
Like losing the popular vote.
So just 14 years, a world war, a holocaust, and an aftermath which still leads to new wars until today?
Yeah I think I’ll just be watching a couple of Netflix documentaries on Nov. 5th. Those are crazy, right?
Also, Hitler had to declare a state if emergency to gain the absolute power the Supreme Court has just handed to the US president.
Suffice it to say, something lile this is impossible now in Germany. The justices of our highest court, the Bindesverfassungsgericht, can only hold the job for 12 years and can be no older than 68. They are also always equally voted in by two different branches of the government and need a two thirds majority for any decision.
Our democracy isn’t without faults, but this is probably our strongest bulwark against another descent into facsism.
Let’s hope it holds up against the AFD
it looks like it isn’t holding up? How are they allowed to still campaign?
Because the Verfassungsschutz sucks, but that’s not the fault of the Bundesverfassungsgericht.
And they repeatedly declared laws of the government unconstitutional, not matter which parties were in the coalition at the moment.
They’re concealing their true nature, and get a bunch of naïve moderates to clean their image. Jobbik did it in Hungary first, it even lead to the radicals splitting out the party under Mi Hazánk Mozgalom (Our Homeland Movement - technically a satellite party and the “bad cops” of Fidesz), and the moderates rebranding as more boring conservatives. Fidesz learned this tactic, and used it to make Trianon Revisionism seem like a “common cause”. Gamergate also did it the first round, the second round was just a literal reaction against any kind of inclusivity. The republicans are also doing it of course: Their average voter isn’t as evil as it seems, they’re just the naïve loyal voters, who think even if things go bad, they can just be removed from legislation. Which is true, but it will be hard if democracy is dismantled like in Hungary, and even then you can’t unlegislate ruined lives, the dead from their graves, the lost years people had to endure because of bad laws and no worker’s protections.
I think Trump will declare a state of emergency as soon as people will riot against his unjust laws. Project 2025 has something about deploying the military against the population to force through deeply unpopular laws.
Since this is posted on a shitpost community, I’ll just assume it’s not supposed to be taken seriously.
Likely testing waters to see if it would land.
We already had trump and biden, and country has been in structural decline since at least 2008.
It doesn’t matter who is the next president since there is zero indication current policy will be adjusted in any meaningful way to to provide any relief for working people.
Beatings will continue until morale improves.
Income tax sunset from trump corpo tax cuts coupled with inflation really pinching people this year. But fake news and our dear leaders can’t figure why z peasants are bitching since inflation is “down”
there is zero indication current policy will be adjusted in any meaningful way to to provide any relief for working people.
Just a reminder that Biden has been working overtime to provide student debt relief the entire time he’s been in office. Republicans have been working overtime to block it.
Student debt shouldn’t even exist. We need more education, not less.
Using existing means to cancel fraudulent loans for non accredited schools that went under or people who were already supposed to have their loans forgiven by standing law but hadn’t because people like literally Joe Biden have given the keys to the kingdom to the business that want to make money more and have been going unpunished for screwing over the general populace.
They aren’t real actually helpful policies it’s minor enforcement of things that he and others of the major parties have ignored being broken for the bank accounts of their donors.
Student debt relief without a reduction in prices is just funneling money to colleges with extra steps. It is an important step, Biden should be doing it, but it needs to be accompanied by serious consumer protections and price controls applied to colleges.
Sure, college education should just be a part of the regular public education system like it is in Europe. More education is a boon for the individual, society, and the economy.
That would be good, private colleges could still exist but they’d have to compete with free college so the prices would have to come down and the value come up, a win for the consumer either way. It would be expensive but an important investment in our future.
Which is not an adjustment in policy in any meaningful way.
If regulation was being drawn up to control pricing of higher education, then we could talk.
Good for 100k people… Thanks daddy
For the remainder: beatings will continue until morale improves.
Where are you getting 100k? 8 million so far, close to 45 have debt.
what program are walking here about?
4 downvotws but nobody can name it huh
The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men. — Plato
Just ask my slaves. Gods, I love slavery. - Plato
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Imagine having a political opponent you consider equal to Hitler and choosing Joe Biden as the candidate you run against him.
And after the debate you have to wonder who you’re really voting for. I don’t believe he’s really calling the shots. If it’s Obama or something okay, but let’s be honest.
Idiotic conspiracy theories like this is troll shit.
I don’t believe you are not an idiot. Let’s be honest.
You really think he’s in control? He looks like he can’t control his bowels.
The only one who can’t control their bowels is diaper don.
“Real men wear diapers” - seen at tRump rallies
Cope
We have actual multiple audio captures of Trump shitting his pants: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1dqvcag/to_what_extent_did_trump_literally_crap_his_pants/
That’s just one of many!
I’m not a fan of Trump, and many very mentally sharp people have issues with bodily functions - that’s often part of life and I apologize for using it as a slur.
I still think Biden is looking unfit to be one of the top world leaders for the next 4 1/2 years.
And after the debate you have to wonder who you’re really voting for.
The one who doesn’t pledge to be a dictator.
Next you’ll be telling us about “big Mike”, right, Chuddy?
This implies that people care, which might not be true…
What do you expect, people think Hitler was good for most Germans and restored economy and made trains run on time, and the defeat part oh well. Because that’s what movies show. And that’s because for commies Hitler was just a variation of the west, probably less capricious, while for the west Hitler was bad, but good against commies. So both would show Nazis as being better than their opponent.
He wasn’t even good for the German economy though, the Nazis produces a large GDP growth through massive military spending, they bankrupted the country well before the war was over, and had they won the war, the German economy would have crashed immediately.
There was no way Germany could have “won” anyway, unless it resulted in literally conquering the entire world. They were in a state of constant “mission creep” (to use a modern term). Early it was “retake the land we lost in the first war”, then it was “Lebensraum im Osten”, then Africa, the entire Soviet Union, etc.
They’ve also ran a few state-level scams and Ponzi schemes to have the funds for that military and other spending.
Their business model was - step 1, cheat to have money, step 2, use money to rearm, step 3, conquer and loot, thus get funds that way, step 4 probably would be to force some peace, then rearm, then rinse and repeat, but they didn’t manage to capture a few strategic areas they needed in time. So they had fuel shortages, food shortages, and ultimately lost.
Their system also only ran as far as it did because of the so called Mefo-bills
These fit under “state-level scams”.
EDIT: Still, while I wasn’t going to compliment them or something, it can be a valid strategy for survival to use anything to accumulate some operational power ; I can see a few nations (not all of them have recognized states) on the map for which it may be necessary to survive in the following decade. But Nazis didn’t have to take such risks, it was ideological for them that theft and robbery are better than honest work.
Wtf I wrote in the end…
I’m voting for Joe!
I’m voting for Not Trump!
I’m voting for Joe and against Trump.
So brave
I’m not sure what point this snark is supposed to be making, but okay.
“dOnT cArE, nOt VoTiNg”
-hexbear
So weird to think that that all went down in 14 years. 2010 doesn’t seem that long ago.
The proper marker is 2008… It has been going down hill and fast.
Boomers created this paradise for us.
Yeah… I mean… bad decisions to “fix” the country post crash followed by the absolutely nauseating problematic laws and decisions since, like citizens united and eased FTC regulations.
And all that before I was even close to being able to vote.
But here we have the boomers and silent generation demanding they know best and will never die and their kids in Gen X just sitting back and trying to make their money at the expense of generations after claiming they “feel sorry” for us without even lifting a finger to help…Honestly fuck a few generations even though it doesn’t help against the real issue of the rich but there was a lot of adults in the room ignoring it because they still felt comfortable well past the signs.
Boomers sold out their kids and country for macmansions and 401ks (most of them did not even get either) by providing political cover for the regime looting the country and fucking the working people.
It is a really disgusting set up the more you learn the mechanics, just getting fucked at every turn.
The fuckening is systemic and premeditated.
They just needed a little bit more. One more sweet hit of that cash before they will get out of the way. And it’s not like they are doing anything young people wouldn’t do and they will live long enough to get their win eventually. /S
Man the lead levels in their corpses are probably gonna poison the soil for generations (I’m hoping it was lead and not just societal selfishness)
It think the lead theory is a cope…
Hard to admit to yourself that entire society is like this on purpose lol
The first NSDAP government came into being in 1930, in Thuringia. It toppled a left-wing government with a broad alliance of liberals, conservatives and right-wing extremists. Today, a center-left government is still in power in Thuringia, but in a tolerated minority government that is dependent on the votes of the other parties. In a few months, it will most likely be voted out by another one. The liberal, conservative and far-right parties are already using their majority to jointly push through laws against the government. An extreme right-wing party will probably become the strongest force and as such will be able to do a lot of damage, even without government participation.
There are already areas where only right-wing candidates are running and right-wing conservatives are the most left-wing option.
Perhaps history will repeat itself this year.
Something about a Genocide and never again…
Do you mean the Germans should have voted for Hitler harder OP?
They had better turn out in that electron than the US did in 2020, by 20%, and the Nazi party won a decisive victory. This meme doesn’t check out.
