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      True, when I plan well enough it’s glorious: shower the night before, CG shampoo bar + stay in conditioner and I can just run my fingers trough my hair to style it the day after

      When I shower before an event it’s a very thin line between too frizzy or too greasy and flat.

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    As a man who used to have long hair for decades, this is just wrong. But also, usually using more than one shampoo + one conditioner is not going to make much difference.

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    My brother spent a week using dog shampoo because he forgot to buy new shampoo. Hair looked the same

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    As a man with frizzy, dry and curly hair. I have to say “doubt” on the dishwashing liquid.

    More like “get that fat-solvant out of my sight, or you’re gonna get it”. No shampoo, only conditioner and you barely rinse it.

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    Am girl. I don’t find that the kind of shampoos and conditioners really matter. I buy all kinds of volume ones for example, and there’s barely any difference. It’s more the styling that comes after. Getting a haircut that works for your hair helps too

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      It never left, been rocking waist length hair since the 90s, that guy has short hair compared to me.

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      It’s always kind of amused me how grunge rock was marketed as a fresh air alternative to hair bands, and yet … everybody still featured long hair.

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        There is long hair and then there is hair metal. It’s not the length, it’s that it’s propped up with a can of Style.

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    Counterpoint: look at any rock band from the 1970s to see what just plain washing with shampoo (very occasionally, apparently) produces. If they ever invent time travel, I’m going to let everybody else handle killing baby hitler (and baby cheetoh I suppose) and go back to the '70s with some conditioner. I will rule the rock world!

    Edit: I might also try at least mentioning to people how fucked up it was that these guys were raping 14-year-old girls all the time (and sometimes the same 14-year-old girl).

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    Part of the solution is actually not washing your hair too much, or using too much product.

    Your scalp naturally produces a lot of oils etc to keep your hair healthy, and shampoo actually removes this to an extent. Conditioner helps, but it’s not the same.

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    The amount of upvotes this boomer shit has is just fucking embarrassing. Gender has absolutely zero impact on hair. It’s all genetics. I’m male and my hair is long and thin as fuck.

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      Gender has absolutely zero impact on hair.

      I used to think this also when I had long, wavy locks. Then met my secret new friend who was hiding away in the back of my genes “male pattern baldness” and now I know that men very much have different hair concerns than most women.

      Also, it’s not a joke about gender having an impact on hair, it’s a joke about gendered roles having an impact on hair and how pointless a lot of the gendered expectations and marketed products are. Take a breath and learn the difference.

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      Hormones can play a role as well. Anecdotally, my wife’s hair during pregnancy became fuller and less brittle. Duckduckgo “pregnancy hair”. A monthly cycle, being on hormonal birth control, etc. will likely have some effect. I definitely agree that genetics does play a bigger role, but claiming that gender/sex plays no role is definitely incorrect.

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          You’re That GuyPerson at parties right?

          If you look for things to be angry about, you’re going to find them. This seems like a silly hill to die on

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    Length and type of hair is what matters. Men with a typical short haircut with straight hair do not benefit from conditioner.

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      As a man with straight hair that is usually on the shorter side I can tell you I get a distinct difference between shampoo only, and shampoo then conditioner. I get a similar effect from 2 in 1 that I just use that… I notice a benefit from 2 applications though (people will actively comment on how soft it looks and ask if I did something different), it is diminished after 2 though.

      I try to only wash my hair a few times a week though when it feels too greasy (longer it gets the quicker this happens) and water isn’t enough, usually don’t bother with the double wash though.

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        Yes, it certainly isn’t universally true that not all short hair needs conditioner but it is more universally true that long hair does which is why women have more hair products.

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          I feel marketing is a not insignificant difference as well. But if it helps people feel better about themselves who cares.

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    I literally don’t use soap or conditioner in my hair except right before I get it cut. They are always like “wow! You have such healthy hair!” Your hair will take care of itself.

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    It’s mainly to do with longer and seldom cut hair being a lot harder to keep healthy than shorter and often cut hair is.

    Being a man or woman doesn’t directly dictate the quality of one’s hair, rather in the current cultural environment it influences how long one’s hair is likely to be allowed to get before it’s cut (and how much it gets cut) which in turn influences how healthy one’s hair naturally is.

    Then there’s also the whole concern with one’s external appearence which again in present day culture is also different in average for men and women, with the latter under more social pressure to look well groomed.

    Plenty of guys out there with long hair have to go to a lot of trouble to make it look healthy when they actually try to.