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    Normally I would ask: What was he thinking?!

    But he’s a Nazi. So, yeah. Probably nothing much.

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        Every group of white supremacists should film themselves being pummeled in order to change recruitment numbers. Any sane mind would appreciate them having that strategy nationwide.

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      According to Reddit comments he wasn’t a Nazi, but a biker. Biker gangs have a complicated history with the iconography, to the point where even the non-white groups use the symbols.

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        ?

        No. Bikers do not have a “complicated history” with Nazi iconography. Maybe some WWII veterans could have an excuse because they were killing Nazis and were displaying their captures, but no one today has any excuse.

        You know what you call a non-white person wearing Nazi symbols? A Nazi.

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          The comment had a link to a documentary, the original biker gangs used captured nazi iconography since they were all veterans. It then morphed with the next generation and continued to change until biker today do not recognize the symbols as nazi and associated them with club founders.

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        “Complicated history” of bikers aside–and we CAN toss it aside because this is today–TODAY, wearing such iconography is inexcusable. This guy 100% knows what that SS symbol represents TODAY, and chose to wear it where he did. Stop making excuses for Nazis.

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        I think that you should have done your due diligence before stepping up to defend a nazi (potential or otherwise)

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    So one thing here. Did you all see the size of the guys pushing him out. If you’re a leftist and you’re a guy, eat steak, lift weights, then you too can push all the Nazis you want around. If you’re not training to lift your purple haired big boobed former Goth girlfriend over your shoulders are you really anti fascist

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      Outing myself as a vegan here, but w/e.

      Don’t eat meat, eat protein and work out 3 days a week or more (if you can)! And specially if you’re vegetarian or vegan, don’t hesitate to consume 5g creatine monohydrate per day with a shake (or however else you like to drink it).

      Edit: I forgot to write it, but obviously, if you’re a woman or anything in between, you should also work out. We all should be strengthening our bodies and minds.

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        Got no problems with vegans as long as they aren’t getting self righteous and treating non-vegans as sub human. For instance, That Vegan Teacher is a massive piece of shit who actively harms vegans with her actions.

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          I have no idea what vegan teacher youre talking about, and in my experience non-vegs feel bad just by hearing that I do actively go out of my way to not hurt innocent sentient beings.

          But yes, of course you’ll feel like you’re doing the right thing, when you actually stop doing the wrong thing. Nothing wrong with that.

          Also, the only reason the militant vegans make people so angry is, that deep down they know it’s true. Change my mind.

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            Its more because they argue like religious people than someone genuinely trying to convince me. I genuinely do kinda agree that if you want to be as moral as possible you should be vegan. But to be entirely honest I just don’t care about animal suffering that much when there are so many issues that affect people and my morality is basically completely human centric.

            And inventing what is effectively used as a slur against omnivores really does diminish the idea that they are simply “doing the right thing”. I am not saying that the term carnist is a slur for clarification just that in some vegan communities it is used in the same way that one would be used.

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              I think when you’re calling vegans “religious” it’s you using that as a slur, despite acknowledging that it’s objectively true, which you probably wouldn’t say about religions?

              And I agree that there are many more problems, but it’s easy to tackle more than one problem at a time, and considering that meat production is responsible for around 15-20% of all carbon emissions, and is a waste of calories (you feed the plants to the animals to get 1/10th at most back), it’s an easy way to also try to help out humans by combatting climate change and world hunger.

              I’d also add that the term “carnist” is just a factual description. It’s like calling a female presenting person woman.

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                I didn’t called vegans religious I said they argued like religious people. Thank you for making that point for me actually.

                Its easy to focus on more than one thing but it is impossible to care about everything at once, last time I tried to do that I simply stopped caring about anything for 4 years.

                Where’s the stat for 15-20% for animal emissions? I’m seeing ≈10% for all agricultural and about ≈60% of that from animals.

                I don’t really get the waste of calories as a point against eating meat? I don’t think that we have to be perfectly efficient with all of the things that we use and on top of that the problems with hunger that we experience are unrelated to the total amount of calories we have available and rather the distribution of them.

                Yes vegans only use it descriptively and it is never used in a way to imply in short hand that they are bad people. Never. I watched the vegan sub on reddit for over a year so you might want to try that on someone who hasn’t seen the way that some vegans talk about people who eat/use animal products. Some people use veganism as a weapon against other people to feel superior I’m not saying it’s you but its a thing that you should be aware actually does exist in your camp like I’m aware that there are people that seem to think eating meat makes them a big strong manly man.

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            Im not interested in trying to change your mind. And not everyone has the resources, time, energy, or interest in becoming vegan. And no, people aren’t angry with militant vegans because they are right. Its because militant vegans are worse than jehovah’s witnesses when it comes to pushing their ideology on others and refusing to acknowledge their own privileges in being able to be vegan and make no effort to learn about anyone else. And that’s all I’ll say on it so if you want to argue do it with someone else.

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              What I read is that you believe being vegan is being privileged (which to an extend is true, because usually it’s the more educated population that also tends to be vegan).

              But the reality is that vegan food is cheaper for the same nutrients. And that despite meat and milk being havily subsidized.

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                Vegan food is not available everywhere. It also provides less flexibility, more effort involved in setting up your diet. If education were such a big factor, i would think vegans would have more self awareness in how they try to provide information and talk to others. Also, just because vegan food is inexpensive where someone is doesnt mean it is everyone. Most important is availability. There are a lot of people who don’t have access to it. I’ll tell you right now someone getting in my face being all aggressive is going to make me ignore them, doesn’t matter their message.

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                  Ok, so so you’re saying me that somewhere 200g of meat is cheaper than 200g of tofu? Because an average meal is pretty much vegan except for the protein, if you cook with oil instead of butter (which is also cheaper).

                  But yeah, no matter what I say, you’ll claim it’s wrong, mainly because you’re not really interested in anything but spreading your words. Which is fine, have a nice day.

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        What is a good source of protein for vegans? I am flexitarian just to diminish my impact. But my main source is from cottage cheese / yoghurt and the alike.

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          To be honest, I am vegan for over 12 years and my main source of protein at the moment is Tofu (I airfry a whole diced package, 20g protein per 200g), or eat soy chunks, soaked in hot water and pan fried (from the local indian store, 19g protein per 40g dry chunks). Also nice is gluten powder (also called seitan), which is wheat protein isolate and is excellent to be transformed into your own meat substitute (also sausages). That has 24g protein per 30g of dry mass, but for consistency I’d recommend mixing it with something like crushed beans or chickpeas, otherwise it’ll be very elastic.

          Otherwise I love the taste of the Orgain plant based protein, and of course, as mentioned by other people, eating a variety of lentils, beans, nuts or chickpeas helps to get the extra you need (the first paragraph is to fill up in the evening if you didn’t have enough during the day)

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              Yeah, oats are really great an hour before a workout, or if you still have capacity for carbs, but all other sources have less carbs per protein.

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                That’s true. But for cheap, readily available, plant based and often short traveled food with decent amount of protein it always struck me as hard to beat. Easy to cook, and can be eaten cold. I usually make it into overnight oats with nuts and Greek style yoghurt (tho then it’s no longer vegan.)

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                No. But probably diluted. But if you drink all the liquid it’s suspended/dissolved in you still get all. Its just that nutritional information is given for dry.

                Cooking it will probably denature it (unfold it so to speak) making the amino acids more available. But all there

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            What’s the texture/taste like? I have pretty bad sensitivity issues when it comes to eating and I’ve never tried it because tofu has always looked really unappetizing to me. I don’t want to waste it if I don’t like it. I don’t like deli meat for the same reason although I can force it down if it’s served at a lunch or something. If the same thing happened with tofu id try it. I’ve never even seen seitan as far as I know.

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              Tofu really depends on which consistency you buy. In stores like H-mart or other asian stores (USA), you can usually buy from very soft (silken tofu, consistency very soft) to very firm (consistency closer to a block of fresh cheese)

              In Europe it can even go to more firm consistencies, something you can also reach yourself if you press/compress it for a few hours (google tofu press, probably also works if you improvise it).

              If you’re searching something more meat like, I’d recommend trying soy chunks from a local indoan store (or the internet), they are also very convenient because they come dry and you can store them for ages until you soak and cook them. Just make sure to add spices when cooking tofu and/or soy chunks, because both don’t really have a taste by themselves. I usually use Soy sauce, sesame oil, garlic powder, salt, pepper and various types of chillies.

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          Not a vegan, but plant proteins are highly abundant in anything like lentils, beans, rice, nuts, the thing is they aren’t complete proteins, for the most part, so you need to make sure whatever your eating is paired with a complementary amino acid profile. Generally if you’re eating beans or legumes then pair them with a grain or rice. Seitan is a great source of protein if you pair it with the right things because the only amino acid it’s not providing is lysine.

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        Not really related, but where did this whole workout trend come from? What is the issue with traditional sports?

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          I think part of it is to reclaim masculinity (big muscle = very man), but of course there’s nothing wrong with other sports! Just stay active!

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          They’re for people that aren’t in their mid 30’s and older. Nothing wrong with them, but after a certain point, there’s a lot of difficulty in keeping up with the scheduling surrounding team sports.

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    Always funny when Nazis think punk venues are a solid place for them to hang

    Edit spelling

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    Some if the comments on this video are wild. People are actually trying to defend him by saying the shirt is from a motorcycle club (which it is) - one that just happened to use that exact symbology/logo. Totally an accident in their part, I’m sure.

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      I didn’t watch the video. Was it the iron cross symbol?

      I used to go to this hole-in-the-wall punk club in Atlanta in the late nineties but I looked like a little hippy kid. My friends had to tell me when it was time to leave since folks might think I was there as a joke in order to fight for fun. I mean, not the same thing at all, but still. Showed me how strongly punk culture has a sense of justice and identity, however spectrumed. Good folks. Strong ethics from my experience.

      Fuck a nazi right in the teeth.

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    I can’t think of a group more likely to kick your ass for this shit haha.

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    You love to see it.

    I’m actually glad how this is going down over on Redshit. People are openly commenting about doing this, and worse, to all Nazi pieces of shit and the comments aren’t generally being removed. My original 13 year old Redshit account was banned without warning for saying “It’s OK to punch Nazis”. So it’s great seeing the same sentiment being so overwhelming right now that the mods are basically throwing their hands up and allowing it.

    I love seeing Redshit squirm under the weight of its users.

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      The dudes in my town would not allow a black truck breaking a three foot swatika on it to park. Driver exclaimed that it was a free country and jumped out. Our three dudes freely gave him an ass kicking. Ambulance took him to hospital. Cops did not arrest the dudes.

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      Punk Rock Bowling used to be a thing where people from the punk scene would meetup at a bowling alley. It’s grown. Now it’s a concert.

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      Probably Brooklyn Bowl. It’s a combo bowling alley / mid-sized music venue in Brooklyn NY that opened a second location in Vegas a while back, because Brooklyn-branded things are apparently a big attraction for foreign tourists in the US.