• dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Not that any death is worth more or less than another, but it is surreal to know that the people killed at the music festival were privileged young people completely removed from the conflict, and most of the people killed in Gaza are poverty stricken children and starving adults.

        War is ugly and unfair.

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        Yeah clearly anyone who can afford a vacation deserves to be kidnapped raped brutalized and paraded through the streets before being left to die as a hostage over 3 weeks.

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          No, that’s not clear at all.

          But you should try to understand the insane excess these partygoers had compared to the squalor that Gazans have to live in.

          It makes sense that with such disparity in qualities of life, those who feel they got the short end of the stick fight back against those who have too much.

          This entire comment chain, as usual, is just people getting upset at criticizing excess wealth. Pretty much unless it’s a billionaire, you’re not allowed to criticize excess wealth.

          The closer we get to the root of the problem, the more people we’ll find that contribute to it and the less we’ll find that are willing to admit it.

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        I wonder what the travel logs for Gazans are like, and why that is.

        I don’t actually spend my time wondering why because we all got a pretty good demonstration from Hamas as to why. Their attack pretty much ensured there won’t be a free Gaza for another generation…or two, or three.

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        It’s so hard to fight for the Palestinian people when soulless monsters like you show up to represent the cause. It’s becoming harder and harder to figure out who is anti-apartheid, and who wants another Holocaust.

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        If you think what happened to this girl was justified, not only are you broken, but you are no different than the people who support the genocide of Palestinians.

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          Oh don’t get me wrong, I talk about how ridiculously expensive traveling is all the time. Anyone who engages in this sort of behavior has no right to complain about ‘not having enough money’, yet they routinely do. Lol.

          Some people just don’t know the difference between needs and wants.

          Shut the fuck up bitch.

          Come on man, there’s no need to be doing that.

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        Could it be because of never-ending attacks against civilians because they lost multiple wars yet refuse to negotiate for a viable peace?

        Nah, must be because the Jews are mean. 🙄

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          yet refuse to negotiate for a viable piece?

          Look at any colonized people who have made peace on their colonizer’s terms for why they might not want to do that.

          Let’s see here, just off the top of my head:

          Native Americans, Native Australians, Native South Africans.

          To be fair, Palestine already resembles the reservations and slums the native people I mentioned have been forced into by their colonizers.

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            I feel like you are missing the line between fighting for their freedom, and publicly raping innocent concert goers to death a bit, though. I completely understand them lashing out. I will never understand the targets that they chose to lash out at. It’s not smart from a strategic standpoint, even.

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              I’m not missing any line.

              That’s just the realities of war.

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                  It’s never bothered me tbh, that’s an American thing. Never heard of it until I visited

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                    Yeah, I worked at an Irish bar for a while and we had a couple guys from Donegal that would go in on drunk college kids about it. Really the only anecdotes I have on the situation, though.

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            Well if you stick to that braindead logic to justify terrorism you’re just going to get bombed with no support from modern nations.

            When you declare a genocide on a group of people don’t be surprised when they fight back.

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              When you declare a genocide on a group of people don’t be surprised when they fight back.

              So, to be clear here, you are condemning Israel here, correct? The ones who are actually perpetuating a genocide?

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                Sure if you count defending yourself from genocide as genocide also.

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                  Israel started the genocide. For that matter, they have a long history of starting fights with their neighbors. Sometimes it works out for them, and sometimes it doesn’t, but the common theme is they always blame it on people wanting to genocide the Jews. Only idiots still fall for that shit.

                  Lucky for them, they have powerful allies that cover for them and drag their asses out of the fire each time. But public opinion is slowly changing, and at some point it’s going to tip and Israel is going to pick a fight where nobody comes to their rescue. When that happens, I hope I’m around to appreciate them receiving their just rewards for being truly inhuman monsters.

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                    “For the first time in 1,000 years not a single Jew remains in the Jewish Quarter. Not a single building remains intact. This makes the Jews’ return here impossible”

                    “The operations of calculated destruction were set in motion. I Knew that the Jewish Quarter was densely populated with Jewish populations who caused their fighters a good deal of interference and difficulty. I embarked, therefore on shelling of the quarter with mortars creating harassment and destruction. Only for days after our entry into Jerusalem, the Jewish Quarter become their graveyard. Death and destruction reigned over it. As the down of May 28th was about to break, the Jewish Quarter emerged in convulsive cloud-a cloud of death and agony” -Abdullah el Tell, a commander of the Arab Legion
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization_of_Jerusalem#Islamization_of_Jerusalem_under_Jordanian_rule

                    This is how the Jews were treated when the shoe was on the other foot, when Jerusalem and the West Bank were annexed by Jordan, (A belligerent fighting for the Palestinians against Israel in 1948,) it was immediately ethnically cleansed:

                    In 1950 Jordan annexed the West Bank and East Jerusalem, and in 1954 granted Jordanian nationality to its non-Jewish residents who had been Palestinian nationals before 15 May 1948. During the nineteen years of Jordanian rule in the West Bank, a third of the Jewish Quarter’s buildings were demolished. According to a complaint Israel made to the United Nations, all but one of the thirty-five Jewish houses of worship in the Old City were destroyed. The synagogues were razed or pillaged and stripped and their interiors used as hen-houses or stables.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Jordan#Jordan_relations_with_Israel

                    Today there are no Jewish citizens of Jordan.

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                    Israel started the genocide.

                    Uh oh. Not this argument. I hate this argument because it never ends. Israel started it. Actually Palestine started it. Actually Israel started it. Actually the Arab League started it. Actually Israel started it. Actually the Ottomans started it. Actually British started it. Actually France started it. Actually Russia started it. So on and so forth–this land is mine, blah blah blah.

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                    It started when all of the muslim nations surrounding Israel declared war on them multiple times over 60 years, and Jewish ethnic cleansing of the holy land was always the main justification. Denying such basic history just makes you look obtuse and/or uneducated.

                    If you think the west is going to turn its back on Isreal fighting a literal terrorist organization you’re delusional. The only way any of this ends is if Muslims just accept that Isreal is not going anywhere and proper permanent land borders are made. Continuing to fight that just causes endless suffering for everyone involved.