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Me literally every time my friends start bitching about Instagram.
I’m always like “who the fuck uses Instagram?” I guess I’m living in a different world entirely.
One of my DnD groups only share IG memes so I never see them because I don’t have IG.
My negative outlook on life pushes friends away so I don’t have that problem.
You’re playing D&D with losers
You should have a better DnD group
My nontechnical hobby circle is all about the insta, sadly. Facebook, too. It’s an uphill battle full of people that expect you have them: They look at you funny if you don’t have one. It’s as if you said you don’t have email.
Primarily 20s-30s something women. If you’re not that demographic, you might not be keen on is usage.
Don’t forget 20-30 dudes who don’t know how to wash or talk to women desperately trying to chase those women.
Just remember, people will be more open to trying the stuff you’re into if you’re compassionate about the things they’re frustrated with!
(This is intended for anyone who wants friends or acquaintances to try the fediverse platforms. For those who don’t or don’t care that’s perfectly valid too :)
What’s the second logo?
First picture I found on Google for each because I’m lazy but there they are with pictures attached.
Piefed
Lemmy
Mastodon
Pixelfed
Most of these names are absolutely atrocious.
To be fair, are there any social media platforms that don’t have a kind of stupid name?
Most of the big ones at least have some kind of coherence behind their naming scheme.
The open source stuff is like: prehistoric hairy elephant, misspelled name of animal used as a metaphorical comparison for people doing dumb shit in a mob which seems to be insulting it’s users, and then some random words slapped onto the word fed - none of which sound good.
Its one of the two hard problems of computer science after all
I thought Diaspora was a decent sounding name. If it had more traction and actually pulled a sizeable diaspora away from Facebook it would have fit better than Facebook, Twitter/X, or Instagram’s names.
The outer right one? This is lemmy. A link aggregator like reddit
Right. But what’s the one on the left?
Pixelfed
Piefed?
It’s like Lemmy but with consolidated comments, flairs, spoilers, polls, topics, feeds (like multireddits), proper blocks, hashtags, piped video integration, disclaimer messages, better mod and reporting tools.
A very concise description, wonderful! 👍
piefed; https://piefed.world/post/474293
At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:
Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.
Given Reddit’s past unreasonableness, I wouldn’t be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.
*ulterior
While ulterior is probably a better way to say that alternative motive also makes sense given the context.
Thanks, I wanted to say that but I couldn’t figure out how to spell it.
That’s what I guessed. Alternative is a fine alternative word though.
*exterior
*widdershins
The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.
Gotta boost user numbers.
Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities
That’s it. It’s the illusion of fairness and it takes away reddit jannies’ ability to show off their powermod status, and that’s the only incentive they have not to use sockpuppets for every sub they mod.
This is actually another of Reddit’s decisions that I’m in agreement with. Subscriber count isn’t a very useful number, it largely just measures how old a subreddit is. You can already see how old the subreddit is much more accurately by looking at its founding date.
If they’d added, yes. But removing it completely is just a way to hide how many are on the platform.
Or left in a protest
You’ve got that backwards.
Active users are literally all that matter. When a user is banned permanently from Reddit, they aren’t unsubscribed from any subs. They’re still included in the total subscriber number.
Showing total subscriber numbers is hiding the details. Showing active user counts is the opposite.
The user numbers were bogus anyway since Reddit didn’t automatically decrement the user number after banning a member. The banned member had to manually unjoin the subreddit. So the membership count was inflated with banned members.
Total subscriber number is useless, daily/weekly/monthly active users is infinitely more important and useful.
True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.
What’s interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn’t going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.
A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can’t just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.
The quality of reddit took a massive hit after the strike and never recovered.
it took another one from the series of purges this year too. i think the purges did alot more damage than reddit is letting on. since they were doing it for months on end, i was seeing a real decrease in users posting, and mostly it was replaced by bot posting.
I was on one of those “especially rebellious mod-teams”. We were even interviewed by Ars Technica about it all at the time.
On advice of a majority of our users, we took our sub offline and kept it that way until Reddit booted us as mods. Honestly, this was the outcome I was expecting — hell, I was pretty open about goading them into it. What was the alternative — to cave to the platform that was abusing us so I could keep working for them for free?
That’s the part I didn’t understand about my fellow mods from other subs. Many of them caved pretty quickly. Their identities seemed to be so tied up in being a Reddit mod that they couldn’t let it go, even though the relationship was obviously very unequal. Too many other people stood up after witnessing the mod abuse to take over from those who got the boot, just asking for the Reddit boot to be applied to their necks instead.
Well, I wish all the mods the kind of treatment they forgave/ignored the last time around.
at least you wernt like that anti-work mod that went ON FOX, that actually drew negative attention to the site.
I have way too much self-respect to ever show my face on FOX 🤣.
actually, thier purges since the election was too effective, and removed so much users and mods by banning them. plus the shadowbans have dramatically increased, because they made the filters to sensitive to "potential bots/spammers). 50/50 irl users/bots. at least right now, its reddit is filled with charlie kirk propaganda(negative and positive), with a little hint of luigi.
That was my reaction too. I don’t feel like digging in to see if it’s actually bad though. Not gonna affect my life.
Its probably related to the whole paying users thing.
We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn’t include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.
Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.
The problem with powermod isn’t that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don’t get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.
The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn’t want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn’t want to give that much power to users, including mods.
That said, Reddit’s shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.
Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience.
It depends who. There are some that build tools and procedures for handling large forums. They may also share best practices across different subs.
As for controlling content, it isn’t like a corporation or political group can’t create 20 accounts and take over subs. That’s already happened on Reddit.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
Or sock puppet accounts. Banning the current set of mods without a plan on who replaces them doesn’t fix the problem.
They can still share tools and best practices but now they cant be involved in the post to post moderation.
As for controlling content, it isn’t like a corporation or political group can’t create 20 accounts and take over subs. That’s already happened on Reddit.
You cant do this if the mods are already doing this because the mods will remove the posts. Giving them a huge block of control over a majority of the content on the platform.
it allows them to institute changes ordered by the admins more effectively, complicitly. hard to do it if 500+ subs had thier own mod team, instead of just 92.
Yeah. I mean, I remembered seeing someone named awkwardturtle on there and they moderated like some 30+ subreddits? That’s ridiculous.
Users like that should not have that much power.
reddit might want AI to control some of the subs, dont you think?
It would have made sense if done years ago. Doing it now is suspicious.
This was desperately needed.
But I’m not convinced they aren’t just going to make alts.
The best way to leave reddit is to get permabanned.
lol can confirm
Can confirm. You can have the mildest takes and still get permbanned.
Did you know, that saying Neo-Nazis should be named and shamed is a permbannable offense?
Reddit is becoming Xitter 2.0 and I’m really hoping the remaining human users on there figure it out soon.
actually since reddit start scrutinizing new accounts and old accounts, you dont even need to cmment to get shadowbanned. thier AI just assume “sudden activity from a new or old account, is consider bannable” they see these types of accounts as potential bots. but we know reddit just wants less users, and only browsers to site anyways.
Another easy way is to use a VPN like Mullvad. They block you and you can’t see anything.
I DO use Mullvad! It’s only $5 a month. I love it.
I feel like I went through withdrawals, took like a month to get over it, now I rarely use reddit, not missing anything, just thought I was, I guess I do miss reddit from like 2015, but it was getting worse every year, one of my last posts months before my permaban was asking for alternatives. (It’s how I found lemmmy lol)
Reddit is also at a point where everything has been asked and is asked again weekly, i don’t really need to post/comment anything myself and my votes mean nothing because of the volume. Most of my comments would get lost in a void.
i think everyone, before the ban was pretty addicted to reddit especally logging in. i only skim through reddit now and then. i visit pet related, and science related subs more often(since im banned i just browse without logging in)
I wish I could scroll it and get the daily dopamine but I forget about it, mostly just google searches these days, it used to keep me actively into my hobbies since I get distracted, but not being able to comment irked me so I stopped browsing the app (plus the fat red you are banned banner on every page)
Can corroborate lmao. They’ve saved me so much time that I usually spent correcting misinfo, but I guess that’s what they want on their platform. Anyways Lemmy’s been an okay replacement.
They use weirdly aggressive fingerprinting to make sure you don’t make any new accounts, too. What a bunch of weirdos.
It’s so easy
There’s still way too many niche communities on Reddit that just haven’t taken off on Lemmy e.g. alternative and non-team sports.
There’s a ViolentMonkey script that can automatically delete all of your Reddit comments. I just run that every few days.
It’s not ideal, but it’s the best that I can do if I value access to those communities, which I do.
I’m starting to get convinced that Redditors and mods are just gluttons for punishment by that platform.
They’re planning on kneecapping old.reddit in this update too, and you see all the typical howling about “if they kill old.reddit I’m leaving fr this time” while at the same time, another big thread one comment lower is about all the ridiculous bans that people have gotten. And this is a mere two years after the API fiasco.
Why do people continue to use a platform that has proven time and time again that the asshole(s) in charge do not give a single fuck about them?
It’s not about the platform but it’s where most of the people are. There’s just not a lot of people here, especially in relation to niche subjects.
There could be if people had / acted in accordance with any kind of principles of self respect. They’re ants in some rich mega douche’s ant farm, donating their time and energy to their captor, but refuse to make the fucking 6-inch journey to a free ant hill beside them.
Almost all of us are here because of the API bullshit. Those who stayed did us a favour, I reckon.
Tbf most of those are usually either lurkers or commenters. The people who post meaningful content are usually rare. But they used to be a lot more common in the early days though, I wonder what happened.
Thats what i like about it. They can stay there.
Fuck it’s been two years…
Reddit is in an incestuous relationship with Google. So it’ll remain relevant as long as it’s results keep getting into the front page of the biggest search engine. Add to that, the results getting fed into AI responses.
Influencers and marketers love Reddit at least as much as they still love Twitter.
How are they kneecapping old.reddit?
I got my 15 year old account permanently banned for filing one report against a user who was stalking my profile to call me slurs. (This was “abusing the report button”, apparently.) Everyone in my household got their accounts banned alongside mine. It’s very strange how the site is being run now.
Yeah. When my 12 year old account got banned I stopped caring about that site and started creating new accounts every week and just posting whatever the hell I wanted without feeling like I needed to censor myself anymore. So their ban happy culture tends to have the opposite effect of what they want.
There’s a browser script out there that auto-adds all your subs back from your old account, so it really wasn’t even inconvenient for me other than the 2 minutes it takes to create a throwaway email account and create a new throwaway Reddit account.
And yeah, their methods for preventing you from coming back end up preventing others using the same computer or in the same household from coming back, so they just lose users. Their methods aren’t very sophisticated though, so it’s pretty easy to avoid them.
Shit site.
The problem with that is that it’s so locked down now you need an account of X age with Y karma, so the majority of the site isn’t something you can participate in. And I get it, lots of spam accounts and whatnot, but still shitty that they’re a hair trigger away from destroying years worth of built up karma over nothing.
“Let’s get rid of our longest running users, that should help the site move forward.”
In a fucked up way, yes. As in I think it’s intentional/logical on their part. The culture of reddit has been changing for a while. I think they would want the “old heads” to leave, but also leave behind their posts/comments for others (and Reddit) to benefit off of.
That’s why people use those web apps that overwrite their comments with garbage. But I always think about how Reddit controls the servers, data, and backups.
Yeah my 10+ yr account was like #340 in comment karma or some shit, I was clearly a contributor, but they banned me for nothing. Wish I would have sold it now.
you can sell an reddit account?
Yeah they can be worth quite a lot too
How much would be quite a lot? Like 100 or more like 10000000?
couple forums and older ones have decent value, you can even sell suble ad like posts, didn’t see that til after my permaban, people will pay you money to post on your account with karma/age about their stuff lol, makes me really dislike that system more, like most new ppl cant even get help because they can’t comment/post in most subs.
blackhatworld is one, i think
How much karma was that? I lost 3 accounts and one had over 100k comment karma, so they lost another good user here as well.
I loved to post solutions to problems that never got solved on several subreddits, oh well.
So how does a person sell their account !?
Yeah, I’m also interested. Why not? Better to sell it now that has value than just getting banned.
Woah… what’s this? I had no idea reddit accounts hold value!
Yes because they IP ban people
IP banning in this day and age is crazy. Years ago I opened my app on hospital WiFi and instantly both of my accounts in there were banned for “ban evasion”. Clearly someone used that IP address to get banned and now everyone using the public WiFi there is just getting banned.
It also made it clear that a big part of shutting down third party clients was so they could track us better. Made evident the minute my personal and work reddit accounts were banned together even though I never switched to the other login at all. With that move they could tie everyone’s throwaways back to their real accounts.
Reddit has a whole metagame on trolling users in these ways. I don’t think corporate cares at all. If anything spez probably welomes it.
Obligatory fuck Spez.
I got a lifetime ban after 12 years on Reddit. I still have no clue why, and I really, really don’t care.
Same. I got a permaban on 9/12 with zero explanation as to why.
I’m currently on a 3 day ban on Reddit for “threatening others” because someone was going on about how they would smash people with telekinesis and I made a comment saying you could simply bend a prion without being dramatic and drawing attention to yourself.
I don’t even get how the fanfiction subreddits are not permabanned due to all the crazy shit that gets written up there.
There’s a snuff/gore fiction subreddit. XD
I got banned for using the expression “take a long walk off a short pier”.
I’ve gotten IP banned twice. Once for talking about my cat killing rabbits (violence!) and once for talking about racist attacks against my local mayor by right wing nutjobs (supporting racism).
It’s astoundingly stupid. I was never once ever even banned or blocked from a subreddit until like 2022. Then I started repeatedly getting bans from lots of subs for racism, sexism and violence. Mostly for throughful comments that were getting tons of upvotes then I’d get some personal comment from a mod about what a jerk I was and how if I think men/women are the same, and race isn’t a huge pivotal thing, and violence is part of life… well then apparently I’m sexist, racist, and promoting violence. I also pointed out some obvious viral marketing going on in some subs… and banned. I also start getting harassed and targetted and followed by people on the site. It was so weird to have someone show up in other subs to insult/harass me or the constant PMs from weirdos. Never ever got those until like '22 as well.
Reddit was great when it was small. People were reasonable and chill mostly and debate was allowed. I learned so much from so many great communities. Now it’s just a corporate echo chamber that wants a inoffensive as possible Disney like image. It’s run by dingbats with zero ability to make normal judgements and caters to nutbags and bad actors who actively abuse things.
That said IRL things are so getting worse. My entire life I’ve mostly head the same opinions… and now all the sudden I’m ‘evil’ because I don’t agree with exteremist/ignorance-first agendas being pushed so hard.
I got banned for a month when I wrote that I disapprove of conspiracy theories. Some keyword list must have triggered it.
I live in a small country that sysadmins don’t care about. if I make an account on reddit, it will be banned the first time I say “hello” in the comments. there is no way for me to use Reddit. the appeal system is completely fake as far as i know. the messages go straight into the garbage they’re not read by anybody.
If you get banned as soon as you comment it’s because you’re IP banned. They have automated checks at least once a day that ban anyone from a blacklisted IP, but every single post triggers a IP check.
Imagine still using Reddit in 2025.
Must I?
I got banned for updooting Luigi stuff.
And I’ll fucking do it again!
I only got a warning, they said if I did it again I could face a site-wide ban though. Pretty disturbing that they’re tracking upvotes to a post… they said I also upvoted a Luigi comment… but in both cases, they wouldn’t tell me specifically which post or comment triggered it.
oh you have no idea, the AI moderation they are using was going to ban you after that warning anyways. the moment your account is flagged with warnings or temp bans, it makes you susceptible to a shadowban down the line.
I got banned for implying someone should give him a call. Reddit can lick my taint, it’s not even worth making another account, I can talk to AI bots anywhere these days!
This is the way.
It’s interesting to see the site treat it’s unpaid workers more and more like low level employees. I guess capitalists just can’t help themselves.
The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven’t figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they’re doing it wrong.
What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.
There’s a robust reddit advertising ecosystem that exists. While much of that starts with standard “buy an ad that doesn’t scream that its an ad” stuff, things like doing an AMA or engaging with users or trying to co-opt user content are all in the mix.
Mods who can approve posts from advertising accounts, block or remove criticism, and even block posts from competitors can gatekeep messaging could, if they were dickbags, stand to make a decent amount of money for it if all the communications comes from sidechannels. /r/hailcorportate always sot of found the line between astroturf advertising and genuine brand worship by idiots, and it’s intentionally messy so it’s hard to tell what’s what.
Even buying and selling of old accounts is a thing. Buying and selling of upvotes from bot accounts, etc. The whole platform is manipulated unless it’s a small niche sub.
Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor… figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.
Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics. :)
“Man, I wish I didn’t have a moral compass. I would have so much stuff!” - my brother after another coworker was fired for getting caught stealing.
See? And now you can wear that “former” as a badge of honor.
My biggest feather in my reddit hat was that they included me in their net neutrality filing with the FCC. I am actually pretty proud of that.
What ever happened to them after that? 😭
Oh wow, that’s actually a big deal. You should be proud of that!
And seriously, they go from Net Neutrality filing to racing at full speed to a bot garden cesspool. Ugh.
some mods are admins themselves, and some only care about POWER so not so much about money. and then theres the propaganda subs, like r/conservatives(well known to be backed by russia)
and allowing AI to train thier models. Reddits /GOOGLE and lesser extent openai is stuck at the hip.
I got banned for criticizing billionaires.
They updated their automod stuff a few months back and if you don’t follow the script you get banned very easily now.
I’m surprised that Reddit has any active users, personally. It’s just so… Fake now.
And so many more right wingers. Even 10 years ago those people would have been downvoted to oblivion now they make top comments.
Reddit for me was an escape from my red state and actually talk about policies I’d like to see along with just other general interest. And if I want to shit on someone for their take or just to blow off Steam. That was the place to do it. It hasn’t been that for about 2 years now. I’ve been off reddit completely for the last 6 months.
I won’t even click a Google link to it in search results.
I really would like lemmy to become more popular because it’s user base is so small
Reddit has been dead since February, when Spez met with The Goblin, and then permabanned thousands, maybe millions of highly active accounts, including me. I was permabanned for repeating a post I had made many times with no issues. After 12 years, and almost a million Karma, I was suddenly too dangerous to allow on the platform, along with thousands of others.
We high volume posters built Reddit, but we shifted from being assets to problems after Trump was elected again.
“subreddits will stop displaying subscriber counts and instead show their “unique number of unique visitors over the last seven days, based on a rolling 28-day average,” Reddit’s rep said. Notably, old.reddit.com will not get these new stats but will still lose subscriber counts”
They are hiding,for stock purposes, their declining numbers from everyone they have banned. 12 year user I never said anything outlandish just dark humor that I always have. Stuff that would have been easily ok 10 years ago. Nope no more
Unique visitor numbers are much, much more important than total subscriber numbers though. Total subscriber numbers include accounts that have been inactive for years.
I was permabanned for saying fascists need to get curb stomped like one forefathers did.
I like how Reddit hosts the most hateful, vile, racist subreddits and bans people like me for not condoning it. That doublespeak is chefs kiss
Reddit died for me the moment RIF went down.
I still use RIF with a Revanced patch- the few weeks before I figured out how to do that I was zero time on reddit. That’s probably healthier for me.
I’m trying to shift over to Lemmy more and more it’s just difficult with some smaller/niche communities. But it’s worth the effort given how much spez is on his knees.
What’s two feet long, and hangs between Sam Altman’s thighs?
Spez’s tie.
Soon as they fucked over the Apollo dev…re, redd who?
These mods have ignored the previous waves of people leaving reddit. They were aware of this and have been warned but chose to stay
its the admins and spez instituiting these changes, reddit was doomed the moment it went public. the mods were too complacent.
They are power-hungry
Funny to hear from the new mods that replaced their predecessors during the protest. Now it’s their turn to be replaced
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
