Summary

Rep. Dan Crenshaw criticized Apple Maps for not renaming the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America, as mandated by Trump’s recent executive order titled “Restoring Names that Honor American Greatness.”

Crenshaw’s complaint reflects broader conservative frustration, as tech platforms and the global community continue to use the original name.

Critics compare the move to past nationalist gestures like renaming french fries “freedom fries,” accusing conservatives of embracing identity politics and culture wars despite their political dominance.

The name change is unlikely to gain international traction.

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    Is this what small government looks like? I thought these guys were all about reducing regulations and allowing businesses to do as they please, free from government restrictions.

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      You don’t understand. They should be free of your restrictions, you should be bound by their restrictions.

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      That post also prompted me to check Google maps, and I got Gulf of Mexico, thankfully. However I’m sure there will soon be a US version with the proper denomination so that the new masters of the land can be placated.

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      Cause most google users aren’t americans and the mental illness of a few sex criminals would disrupt their service.

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        It doesn’t matter who their customers are, Google is a us based company.

        However, hopefully they are able to depose, delay, deny this ridiculousness

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    Fuck, I honestly thought this was the Onion. Somebody get me out of this timeline. I withdraw consent for this simulation!

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      If Apple changed the name to “Gulf of How The Fuck Does This Lower Grocery Prices” for a day in response I’d start using Apple Maps.

      I’ll be happy with companies ignoring this to set the precedent that these executive orders are toothless.

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      Thank you for your service, sir/madam. You’re already a better executive than some presidents I can think of, thinking of what the people want.

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        As the first matter of business I need to immediately address, my resignation. No one man is equipped to weild the power of the lemexcutive for much longer than I have.

        Farewell lemmings. Until we shit post together again.

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          Good night, sweet prince(ss)! Though your reign in this (lemmy.) world was short, your reign in our hearts will last at least a few more minutes!

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      This should include the beautiful Oblast of New America if we are anyway in the process of renaming things.

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    Who’s gonna tell him?

    The earliest known use of the name America dates to April 25, 1507, when it was applied to what is now known as South America. It is generally accepted that the name derives from Amerigo Vespucci, the Italian explorer, who explored the new continents in the following years on behalf of Spain and Portugal, with the name given by German cartographer Martin Waldseemüller.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_of_the_Americas

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      Waldseemüller

      It’s a good thing the continent wasn’t named after him instead!

      Then again, having a swim in the Gulf of Waldseemüller sounds kind of nice.

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        For all the non-Germans, Herr Waldseemüller or one of his ancestors probably was a miller at a lake in the forest. That’s what the components of his name say, and we already have a body of water here.

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    Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but who even has the legal right to rename the gulf? It doesn’t belong to USA, right? So we can’t just rename it, right? If we did, everybody else in the world would keep calling it The Gulf of Mexico, right?

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      If we did, everybody else in the world would keep calling it The Gulf of Mexico, right?

      Most countries don’t call it “The Gulf of Mexico”. For example in my country it’s “Mexický záliv”.

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        Did you know that Confucius was one of the rudest people to ever live? He never said “thank you” or “please” in his entire life.

        Point is this is just Golf of Mexico in another language. Maybe not 100% literal, but it associates the site with the country Mexico, not America (which Mexico is a part of, but I’m not sure MAGAts understand or want to understand the nuance).

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            I never claimed otherwise 😉 a country named “America” doesn’t exist to my knowledge.

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          The point is that the Czech name for the gulf has nothing to do with how Americans are calling it, it’s not even the same language. Why should be care Trump calls it different? He’s not our president, you know.

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            Yeah, it’s not like we English speakers call Germany Deutschland. And it’s not like we call the Persian Gulf the Iranian gulf after Iran changed it’s name.

            To a certain degree countries respect other countries’ rights to nominative self determination. It’s actually pretty similar to how we respect people’s nominative self determination. When a country we interact with regularly significantly changes their name we generally adapt, but we typically do so in our own language, and we often don’t bother if they don’t mind the nickname we use.

            Geographic features on the other hand, we usually need a good reason. There’s a reason they’re typically officially called whatever they’re actually called. The back and forth over the naming of Denali is weird in part because most Americans barely remembered it’s existence between name changes.

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      Every sovereign state can publish maps require everyone to use it as reference for further publication in its own territory. Hence you’ll see different maps on Google for different regions. There’s a UN committee to coordinate these and also to publish international water area names.

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    Anyone else remember “freedom fries”? That’s what we were supposed to call french fries when conservatives were upset that the French were not supporting the US invasion of Iraq.

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    There is no gulf with that name anywhere in the world.

    You’ll have to go back and figure out what you mean. Feel free to let us know once you find the name of a real gulf.

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        Executive Orders are closer to press releases than they are to law. They can say pretty much anything - whether those things are enforceable or even consistent with reality is up to the courts.

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          Government employees and institutions are bound to act according to executive orders. They are binding. You’re correct they can be challenged in court. EO need to fit under existing laws. EO are often instructions on how to implement an existing law.

          Press releases are not binding and might even be outright lies.

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            To be precise, it’s like your CEO sent out an email telling everyone they must do something or another. Deviating from them without a court or law backing you up means your services will no longer be required, but generally shouldn’t be facing criminal charges.

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        Executive Orders are more like a corporate memo to the government. It’s not a law passed by congress, but it can direct the government in how to administer existing laws or regulations.