We are still waiting for CES to find out who the partners are.

Device uses movement of ions to generate airflow without any moving parts like in iPads and MacBook Air.

  • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    10418·
    17 天前

    Counterpoint: stop trying to make laptops thinner and implement realistic and functional air cooling

    • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
      732·
      17 天前

      Passive cooling is generally better for reliability if you can make it work, since all active airflow systems will degrade as dust and hair works into the airflow paths.

      • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        39·
        17 天前

        Plus, the two can be used in combination. Improved passive cooling systems will make active cooling better by reducing the need to run the active system all the time, or at least run it at reduced rates, which will make the whole system last longer and reduce maintenance.

    • lud@lemm.eeEnglish
      441·
      17 天前

      Or we innovate 🤷

      It isn’t a given that every device needs a fan anymore. For example non intel MacBook air.

      • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
        11·
        16 天前

        My laptop and older phone has this and it really does help with the added surface area.

        The only issue is if you go full throttle, the section right above the CPU can fry your hand lol.

        Although I only ever reached that temp doing stupid crap like hashing.

    • UnityDevice@startrek.websiteEnglish
      5·
      15 天前

      Well there’s no shortage of those, and they’re unusually cheaper too (unless they’re specced out). I prefer a thin silent one myself, so I welcome this innovation.

    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      17 天前

      They already do. My thinkpad T14s is incredibly thin, and it can dissipate 400 40 watts of power. My P1 dissipates 160+ watts and it’s also very thin.

  • RubberElectrons@lemmy.worldEnglish
    62·
    17 天前

    Speaking from experience here, and limited information from the company, this looks like a polished version of a high-voltage grid accelerator.

    https://ventiva.com/how-it-works/

    What can be an expected concern is that besides ionizing air and imparting motion to neutral air molecules as the ionized ones rush from one plate to the other, that same effect can and will charge dust particles. That “collector plate” will need to be easily accessible.

    Sound familiar?

    • EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      5·
      17 天前

      Appreciate the link. I’ve got a hand-me-down Ionic in my house, and knowing that I can skip running it for basically the same effect means I can save a couple of cents on my electricity bill.

      Gonna take another look at those IKEA tables with the HEPA filters built in. Those seem handy to avoid having to dust so often.

      • RubberElectrons@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        17 天前

        Sure thing, glad to be of some kinda help. Ozone can be a good irritant, never mind charged dust sticking to stuff it ordinarily wouldn’t.

        I hope this company has a trick for dust control, but I’m expecting that’d be tougher than figuring out the ionic wind part.

    • frezik@midwest.socialEnglish
      2·
      16 天前

      They do have a solution for the ozone and dust problems. See this video at about the 9 minute mark:

      https://youtu.be/fyai_kUYhLs?t=539

      tl;dw: they’re using a cataylist to convert the ozone. There’s a lack of specifics on the dust issue, but they apparently have thought about it and have something there.

      One other issue is that the static pressure is abysmal. You can work around that, but it’s not a drop in thing.

  • LordGimp@lemm.eeEnglish
    16·
    16 天前

    Doesn’t an ionic air moving system like this put out a big ass EM field?

    Im a fabricator who don’t fuck with the lecky, but maybe someone more educated than me can explain why this doesn’t wipe your memory every time the cooling kicks on

      • mightyfoolish@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        15 天前

        It would be a good use case; however, you can only do so much with a cut down version of a SOC that was originally made in 2015. It may be work for very little gains.

  • hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    51·
    17 天前

    I see what they did there with the “ICE9” name.

    If it works, it sounds like it’d be something meant for a future Steam Deck to experiment with.

  • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
    3·
    16 天前

    So my take away from all of this is that this is a laptop that can propel itself around in space. Pretty neat.

    • Zron@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      16 天前

      Sadly, there would be no reaction mass.

      All that would happen is the lcd panel would boil and crack, and the processor would overheat soon after because nothing is carrying away the heat.

      • Echo Dot@feddit.ukEnglish
        4·
        16 天前

        Nah, it can use all the dust and bits of carpet fluff. It’s magical stuff carpet fluff, it’s always a different color to any color you actually have as a carpet.

  • Viri4thus@feddit.orgEnglish
    810·
    17 天前

    Sadly, this won’t go anywhere now for the same reason it didn’t go anywhere for the 10 times it has been proposed before. It looks great on first look but longevity is amazingly low and likely will require purchasing of catalyst less than a year after first use. I’m sure investors loved that part of the pitch but compared to current fan tech, with good static pressure, there’s no way someone with half a brain would chuck this in their laptop. And that’s before considering the rest of the downsides.

  • dunz@feddit.nuEnglish
    715·
    17 天前

    Uuuh, the cooling in macbook airs and ipads is just passive aircooling, like in all phones and all other “normal” tablets.

    • stephen01king@lemmy.zipEnglish
      13·
      17 天前

      There’s no rule against using active cooling for tablets and phones, only practicality. This technology seems like it might be practical enough to use in compact devices such as those, but we’ll see if that’s true.

      • thejml@lemm.eeEnglish
        2·
        17 天前

        I’d be surprised if they can keep phones with this waterproof and dust proof. Laptops I can see, phones not so much.

        • Chronographs@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          17 天前

          Yeah I can only see this being used as an external phone cooler or maybe for niche ‘gaming phones’ that would otherwise have a fan

    • devilish666@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      17 天前

      Well passive heat exchanger works as long as your device doesn’t have big power/TDP on it like office laptop, mobile phone, etc.

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.worldEnglish
    317·
    17 天前

    I have a house filter that functions on the same principal… Lol!

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