• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
    107·
    20 days ago

    I was a funeral director and got this question a lot.

    1. That’s not how vikings had funerals. The only Norse who had that type of send off is Baldr, son of Odin, in Norse mythology. Real Norse were cremated or buried. Important people had huge burial mounds since they’d be buried with a lot of their possessions. In reality, if you burned a boat with a body on it, the result would be a charred decaying corpse floating back to land in a day or two. A ship doesn’t have enough wood to completly burn a body and bacteria in decaying dead bodies produce gas which causes dead bodies to float.

    2. It is possible to “bury at sea” depending on the area. The Canadian government charges a significant amount for a permit to do so and it comes with a lot of conditions like a weighted and sealed casket and being dropped far enough from the shoreline. I’ve heard they make the process as difficult and costly as possible as a way to discourage the practice. However, there are no restrictions on scattering cremated remains at sea!

    • Nibodhika@lemmy.world
      122·
      19 days ago

      A curious fact about Vikings is that they had legendary weapons imbued with the spirit of great fallen warriors which were stronger than any other weapon at the time. They had a ritual in which they would burn the body of their fallen warriors in the fires of the smelter while making weapons to “imbue” their spirit into it, what happened was that the carbon from the body they were burning formed an alloy with the iron of the weapon, making a crude form of steel in a time we’re everyone had iron weapons.

      • Agrivar@lemmy.world
        3·
        18 days ago

        Gotta be honest here, that sounds like some Ancient Aliens shit… is it a fact or a “fact” you’re sharing? Have any links to reputable sources of information?

  • catharso@discuss.tchncs.de
    454·
    20 days ago

    so, you’re still alive and want do die burning on a boat?

    takes a lot of discipline not to jump in the water i guess 🤔

    also, who cares if it’s legal. they’re not gonna put your corpse in jail.

  • pno2nr@lemmy.world
    19·
    20 days ago

    I would like a traditional burial but I want to be shot from a human canon into the grave. I wish you luck in your endeavors.

    • Scrawny@lemm.eeEnglish
      81·
      20 days ago

      I like this. Don’t scatter my ashes. Scatter my viscera mist into the air.

    • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
      5·
      20 days ago

      Johnny Depp paid for Hunter Thompson’s ashes to be fired out of a cannon mounted on a giant fist to explode over the valley. Note that I said ashes. Even super rich celebrities had to have the body cremated first.

      • SolOrion@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        2·
        19 days ago

        Did he want to be fired without being cremated? I can’t imagine someone wanting to be splattered everywhere lol

        • MutilationWave@lemmy.world
          2·
          19 days ago

          Are you familiar with his work? But no he acknowledged in life that he would have to be cremated first.

          Just remember, if someone offers you drugs, take them.

  • DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world
    144·
    20 days ago

    So you want to die in a burning boat‽ While some countries in Europe allow for assisted suicide, I don’t think any allow for self immolation while at sea.

    Now if you’re looking for a viking funeral procession after your death, I would think environmental regulations would be the biggest hurdle.

  • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    9·
    20 days ago

    Heavily depends on the jurisdiction that applies to you when you die. People will be better able to help you if you disclose that.

      • groet@feddit.orgEnglish
        8·
        20 days ago

        Then OP has to die in international waters. And I think ships usually count as part of the country they are registered in. So if you die on a cruise ship it still counts like dieing in that ships owner country. And its not trivial to move a corpse out of a country, there are laws about that. So the country they plan to die in very mutch matters.

      • bleistift2@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        3·
        20 days ago

        Even international waters (or, as I just googled, the “high seas”, as is the more appropriate term) have laws. Usually you are subject to the laws of the ship’s flag state.

  • makeshiftreaper@lemmy.worldEnglish
    81·
    20 days ago

    Generally speaking in America it’s very difficult to obtain custody of a corpse after the authorities have it in their possession. While there are many types of funeral options viking burials are not one. Regular fire does not burn hot enough to fully burn a human body, which is why cremation uses special equipment. Generally nobody wants partially burnt corpses in their river, so you’re either going to be illegally polluting or going to international waters. Generally you’ll need to convince some combination of funeral director, medical examiner, coroner, hospital director, and the police to give you custody of the body. It seems unbelievable to me that you’ll be able to convince all those people to give you a body for a viking funeral

    On to illegal ways you could accomplish this: not reporting a dead body is not only a crime but also makes you incredibly suspicious for fraud at a minimum and murder at the max. Not acquiring a death certificate will make dealing with any estate very difficult. Stealing the body from wherever it is located will likely get you charges for defacing a dead body. You could bribe some people to look the other way but if that fails that’s also a crime

    In short, no you can’t really do it. However, this is America, so presumably with enough money to the right people you could probably work it out. But we’re talking .01% level money and connections

  • KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    20 days ago

    Based on some of the legal and technical aspects of what people have said here, I wonder if it might still capture some of the essence of what you’re trying for, to do a proper cremation and then have the ashes poured into a boat, possibly in a fancy or ceremonial way, that is then burned. Or the ashes could be in a burnable urn and placed into the boat.

    I think there’s a lot that you could do with staging and design that would allow the event to have very similar gravitas despite the lack of a full body.

  • WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world
    41·
    20 days ago

    I’m sure you can just rent a boat and set it off yourself. Starting a fire than will burn up a boat is probably the easiest part. But hey man, keep your head up. Things will get better.

  • Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world
    2·
    20 days ago

    I’ve seen these barbeque boats floating around tourist spots. They have a grill in the center, seats all around and a driver steers them while they cook and eat. So you get one of those, “accidentally” spill some lighter fluid all over and have a pack of hot dogs for a cover story. After that, it’s as simple as lighting the grill and riding the flames to valhalla.