Like engagement rings denote the engagement… Maybe it’s just English being its usual mess

  • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    731·
    9 个月前

    A wearer of an engagement ring receives it when they become engaged, and a wearer of a wedding ring receives it when they wed. Seems pretty consistent to me.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      29·
      9 个月前

      Yeah, you get it at the event.

      OP is acting like a birthday gift is only a birthday gift on someone’s birthday…

    • CelloMike@startrek.websiteOP
      1·
      9 个月前

      I get that, but also, it’s always seemed like the purpose of the ring is to signify the state of being, so engagement ring to show the state of being engaged, wedding ring shows the state of being married, or wed, I guess it works both ways

      Not a strongly held view by any means 😆

    • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
      22·
      9 个月前

      Your logic makes sense. To OP’s point, though, you wear an engagement ring to show that you are engaged; a wedding ring to display you are married/wed. The argument for it being called when you receive it is weakened by the fact that most people remove their rings when an engagement is broken, or they get divorced. Or, they move the ring to a different finger, at which point it’s no longer an engagement or wedding ring, right? It’s just a ring.

      If the rings were named after the event of reception, they’d still be called wedding and engagement rings even after a broken relationship. They’re “was” rings; ex-wedding-rings. No longer engagement rings.

      So the more I think about it, the more I’m with OP - the rings represent a state, and so wedding rings should be called “marriage” rings to represent the state of being engaged/married, rather than the singular event of the giving.

    • Thelsim@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      9 个月前

      In Dutch it’s called a trouwring, which as a verb literally translates to wedding ring, but as a noun also to loyalty ring.
      Which I find rather sweet.

      • CelloMike@startrek.websiteOP
        2·
        9 个月前

        Ooh neat, think that’s from the same root as troth/betrothal in English too, proto German for truth & fidelity

        • bob_lemon@feddit.org
          1·
          9 个月前

          German also has Trauring (and related words) going back to that root. Although it’s rather archaic and not used nearly as much as Ehe or Heirat. And then there’s Hochzeit for just the ceremony.

          I never realized how many words we use for wedding…

    • josteinsn@lemmy.world
      1·
      9 个月前

      In Norwegian same thing: giftering, “the state of being married-ring”. Jeg er gift = i am married. It also means “I am poison”, though.

  • 11111one11111@lemmy.world
    112·
    9 个月前

    You receive an engagement ring at your engagement and your wedding ring at your wedding. How is this difficult?

    • intensely_human@lemm.ee
      11·
      8 个月前

      And you receive a key ring at key moments in your life, such as upon taking possession of a property or car.

  • SwingingTheLamp@midwest.socialEnglish
    4·
    9 个月前

    Reminds me of an old Yakov Smirnoff routine. Espresso powder makes espresso, and milk powder makes milk. So what does baby powder make?

  • tacosanonymous@lemm.ee
    2·
    9 个月前

    Some people never even get “wedding rings” and just wear the fancy looking engagement rings forever.

    That being said, wedding rings make use of the wed/wedded connotations. :shrug:

    • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
      1·
      9 个月前

      While I don’t see the necessity in wearing a ring in the first place - yet I am a sucker for rings - what always gets me is having a fancy overpriced engagement ring that you’re supposed to wear for a short period of time and then a simple wedding ring that you’re supposed to wear forever.

      • wildcardology@lemmy.world
        1·
        9 个月前

        You can blame the debeers company for the engagement ring. Just like you can blame Kellogg’s for the slogan “breakfast is the most important meal of the day”.

      • Jikiya@lemmy.world
        1·
        9 个月前

        Wait, do you know women that stop wearing their engagement ring after they’re married? Every married woman I’ve met (that doesn’t have a hands based labor job) wears the engagement and wedding ring. All the women in my family have them soldered together some time after, so they don’t independently spin on the finger.

        • volvoxvsmarla @lemm.ee
          1·
          9 个月前

          I’ve known one woman who sometimes wore the engagement instead of the wedding ring but this was very odd and uncommon. I know everyone keeps their engagement ring but hardly anyone ever wears them, let alone on a regular basis.

          • Jikiya@lemmy.world
            1·
            9 个月前

            I am curious what region you’re from. I would guess it’s outside of the US, but perhaps there’s an area that differs from the norm I’ve experienced.

            If you are indeed outside the US, I’m guessing it’s the American tradition of engagement rings, without the tradition of continuing to wear the engagement rings. That truly would be a (bigger) waste of money.