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              in torture, the pain is the point. while i think factory farming is too ambivalent about suffering, i also believe the suffering is only incidental, not intentional. it’s not torture.

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                perhaps you could explain that subtle difference to the animals going through the system of abuse.

                Im sure it would brighten up their days no end to realise the pain they are experiencing is not the point of the system and that therefore, they are not being tortured.

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                  14 days ago

                  perhaps you could explain that subtle difference to the animals

                  i don’t think i can, no. but propagandists can choose to stop using emotionally charged and incorrect terms.

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              have you ever paid anyone at a factory farm? i haven’t, and i don’t think most people have.

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      And this is why its impossible to have a conversation with yall. Even if you believe this, if you are hostile to outsiders, you just guarantee theyll want to do it more. Cult deprogrammers have to be real nice and mostly just listen for a reason

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      13 days ago

      Says the person who pays for humans to be tortured they can have a phone.

      See? We can all make disingenuous, insulting statements; but that’s not productive in getting people to listen to us.

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        depending on how you see things, abuse is part of any system. that said, humans are at least able to be a part of the system and have dialogue with the system. there is potential to effect a system.

        this cannot be said for a 4 day old calf being taken away from the mother for slaughter just so the mother can continue to lactate and little fat Jonny can have his full fat on his frosties again.

        lastly, it’s hardly insulting to remind people that they pay for disgusting levels of animal abuse.