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    9 months ago

    Sisko seems like the type of guy that you invite to a party and he spends the whole evening in your kitchen because the marinara that came with your mozzarella sticks “doesn’t have enough kick to it”

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      9 months ago

      Sisko can and should show up on SNW to help Pike get his jambalaya recipe just right, then vanish without any explanation other than that he needs to get back to his children and wife.

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        9 months ago

        Sisko insists it’s important to the future, but really he just can’t personally accept the existence of sub-standard jambalaya at any point in history.

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    9 months ago

    I strongly suspect Discovery was written and acted by people who have never seen actual shit or suffered trauma.

    If they had, perhaps they would realise that people who’ve been through a lot are often the (seemingly) calmest or least emotional person in the room when shit hits the fan. It isn’t their first rodeo. Or they’re bitter and angry arseholes. Basically Jean Luc Picard or Liam Shaw are far more realistic portrayals of people who have gone through shit.

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      9 months ago

      ADHD helps.

      “I have experienced this moment 44 times in my head.”

      “Oh this argument? I was up late three nights in a row running through every possible iteration.”

      "Dude! Why were you so calm last night? That was a huge fire and you just sort of calmly grabbed your drink and bag and walked out the door. I saw it!

      “I have experienced that moment more times than you can possibly imagine.”

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      9 months ago

      Written by, sure. But I distinctly remember that the characters cried regularly in that show after trauma.

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        9 months ago

        That is what annoys me the most with disco trek.

        These people are supposed to be trained professionals, serving in a military hierarchy and should, before they even graduate, be accustomed to the proper decorum and on duty-appropriate behavior for an officer.

        If they are constantly involved in personal drama and unrelated problems it just feels like watching a therapy session in space. It’s probably exacerbated by the modern season length of a dozen episodes at best, but in the older trek they struck a much more palatable balance of personal issue / character episodes and more plot centric stories.

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          9 months ago

          it just feels like watching a therapy session in space.

          TNG had the ship’s therapist literally sitting next to the captain.

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          9 months ago

          I think it’s no surprise that each Trek, through its own lens, shows us some vision of a possible future. ST:D just showed us a future where living life means dealing with the whole mind and not treating it like a taboo. Considering all the recent buzz about not neglecting mental health, I think ST:D was really relevant in its time for exploring what could be different in a better future. It’s not a documentary, it’s a vision.

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          9 months ago

          At least S1-3 had Michelle Yeoh for when you needed some asses to be kicked.

          I’m on S4 now and honestly struggling to finish it. There’s nobody there I like. Everyone is just so fucking weepy all the time.

          I just finished watching Succession (which I highly recommend), and I think you see somebody cry like three times across the whole show. When it happens it means something. In Discovery it’s like 3 times per episode. It’s exhausting. I don’t know who it’s even written for. I can only imagine this is what 60 year old studio executives think gen Z wants to watch.

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        Can we just take this to its natural conclusion and have the entitled hippy arts majors come up with their interpretation of ww1 trench warfare? I took a lot of theater in school for fun (not allowed to double major) and saw all kinds of dumb takes but nothing on this level, I have no idea what bubble they’re finding these writers in.

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          The lead writer/producer for Discovery is also the same writer/producer of the last half of Voyager and parts of DS9. I swear, Paramount is the biggest reason you dislike so much of Discovery, not the actors/writers/producers.

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      Discovery always struck me as a sci-fi show written by the same people who wrote Gilmore Girls, General Hospital, Greys Anatomy or any other dramatic series.

      It’s the over the top Drama Trek.

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        9 months ago

        Suspiciously the bodycams were off but i’ve heard the voyager crew was originally twice as large until she ran out of coffee the first time.

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    9 months ago

    Oh man discovery. It always seemed like it was written by that guy who was crying and screaming for people to leave Brittney alone.

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            9 months ago

            I uh, looked it up, and I see why there was confusion. She’s Trans

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              9 months ago

              Is she really?

              I actually didn’t know. The difference seemed trivial to me, and it still does. It really doesn’t change their message or anything.

              It never bothered me at all, nevermind bothering me enough to dig into information about them to figure it out; regardless, that’s a nice thing to know in the situation.

              I hope she’s doing well.

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                I mean, usually when theres two names in wikipedia its because they transitioned from one to the other, to me she looks like her identified gender, but I guess I can see why others didnt. I just double checked with a quick google search, it wasnt an intense investigation

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                  I can see why people cared. That’s just not me.

                  I don’t really think people’s curiosity is just cause to violate her privacy. It’s entirely up to her to decide to share that information or not.

                  I don’t understand people’s fascination with it. I’m fairly indifferent about people’s genders or sexual preferences in general. You make the choice that suits you best, I’ll do the same for me. If you want to be called he/she/they/whatever, then fine, that’s cool. I’ll do my best to respect your wish to be referred to by a particular title/pronoun. It makes no difference to me.

                  I’m also pretty indifferent about how people refer to me. Call me sir, miss, he, she, they, them, “hey you”… I don’t honestly care. I’m fine with gender normative terms and that’s what I tell people that I “prefer” but honestly, I could not care any less. I usually avoid gendered terms as much as I can when I’m in someone’s presence; I’m also bad with names, so I usually just use personal direct pronouns such as “you”. I try my best to side step the whole issue because it’s trivial in my mind. I won’t fault someone for caring about it, the same way I don’t care if someone gets my name wrong, or says it differently. I don’t care enough to correct them, and I don’t care that it’s wrong unless they need to enter my legal name into a thing for something, which is when it actually matters, legally, so I’ll correct them at that point. The only other correction I’ll make is to avoid confusion with coworkers. I work with some people who have similar sounding names to mine, so I’ll correct clients and co-workers so that I’m not conflated with them (and I don’t take flack for something they did, and they don’t take flack for something I’ve done, etc). Beyond that, I couldn’t care less. At the same time, people have gotten angry with me for pronouncing their name slightly wrong, so I know people are out there with very strong opinions on it.

                  Maybe I’m weird. Who knows. There’s just so many more important things in the world than what people call me that I’m just consistently unbothered by people getting it wrong.

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              9 months ago

              Well still the attitude seems like a discovery writer…if I changed my position that would be bad right?