• Beardedsausag3@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    I’m so confused. As a northerner from England with an IQ equal to the ply of toilet paper I use, does every object in French have a feminine or masculine alignment? Or is this some kind of joke privvy to those who don’t have a concerning interest in sheep?

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      9 months ago

      A lot of languages including Germanic and Romance languages have “gendered” nouns, which is a weird term for “these are some arbitrary categories we put nouns into”. While that idea of noun classes is often called “gender” and they are also named “gender-y” things like masculine and feminine, the idea doesn’t have a lot to do with gender as in identity.

      Compare English irregular verbs - how come you don’t say “swimmed”? You “just don’t”, that particular verb is in a different class. Same thing applies to nouns in certain languages, and affects (among other things) how they’re conjugated.

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        9 months ago

        Gender in the grammatical sense just means category, from French genre, Latin genus.

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      9 months ago

      Yep. Most Latin languages have gendered nouns. Italian, Spanish, German etc. All have masculine/feminine objects.

      Eg. In Italian a fork is feminine (la forchetta) but a spoon is masculine (il cucchiaio). A table in your living room is a boy (il tavolo) but a table that you’re eating lunch on is a girl (la tavola).

      It’s bizarre.

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        9 months ago

        German isn’t a Latin language, it’s in the Germanic branch, along with English, Dutch and others. French, Italian and Spanish are Romance or Latin languages.

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          8 months ago

          True! It’s not just a Latin thing and Slavic languages have it too. I wonder where it came from originally. Probably one of those Proto Indo European things. Though it’s in some Indigenous Australian languages too (though not all) so might be even older?

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            8 months ago

            I think grammatical gender is just a feature of languages across many different families.