• Cowbee@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    That’s Capitalism, buddy. I’m advocating for Worker Ownership of their own labor, and collective ownership of the Means of Production. Personal Property is fine, but the end goal of Capitalism is everyone renting everything from a few Capitalists.

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      11 months ago

      They tried it and people just sold their shares immediately to some guy buying them all and bought vodka and cigs

      All I want nowadays is just equal opportunities to everyone to amass capital which probably would abolish inheritance first and then regulate market to protect from monopolies.

      It’s a race and war but at least make the rules fair. Then those who win they win and lose they lose but it was a fair fight

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        11 months ago

        Just make workers share ownership and unable to have unequal shares. Ez.

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      11 months ago

      Who will produce things without incentive as monetary gain through which they can acquire things? Noone

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        11 months ago

        Do you clean your room?

        On a more serious note, Communism is a future ideal, money would still exist until its possible to abolish. There are tons of writings on this that can help elaborate, why do you believe work must be done with monetary inventive?

        Edit: oh yea, you’re the landlord everyone called out a while ago, and rather than making any points to defend yourself you just pretended you were superior. Lmao

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          11 months ago

          I clean my room because it gives me a feeling of order.
          I do not work because i like work.
          I work because i have to so that my children don’t

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            11 months ago

            You like the feeling of order, so you work. Seems like a non-monetary motivation for me.

            You also think worker ownership of the Means of Production is Capitalism if it has profit, so I think you’d do better by actually researching what you talk about first.

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                11 months ago

                Yes, and you aren’t paid to do so. Sounds like non-monetary motivation.

                Why do you think Socialism is Capitalism?

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                  11 months ago

                  No, my motivatiopn is me thinking of myself. I would never in a million years go work in a mine if i didnt get compensated for it monetarily. I do more risky and hard work than a teacher so i should also be rewarded more than a teacher.

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                    11 months ago

                    You’re a landlord, lmao.

                    But either way, even if you’re fully self-interested, you still work for non-monetary reasons.

                    Again, please address why you think Socialism is actually Capitalism, we can’t even begin to discuss a future system like Communism if you can’t even understand Socialism.