And why would you be ridiculed and scorned for opening up emotionally?
because people are mean and repeat the mean things that have been done to them, and difficult emotions make people uncomfortable and one way to avoid them is punishing people who do open up
Your evidence is… the comment i responded to? Not very compelling. It doesn’t feature you giving any sympathy, just saying you don’t get it. And the implication thus far is that you simply can’t conceive of it happening. Not the most empathetic stance, is it?
It reminds me of the guys that claim sexism no longer exists, asking “but where is there any sexism?” And then shooting down all examples as not counting, continuing to ask “where is this sexism?”
not literally punished, but socially responded to negatively. I’ve been lucky that I haven’t experienced it much (and even then, I still struggle to open up), but it’s a very real thing. For men, one umbrella term that includes this concept is “toxic masculinity”
Yeah, I guess all I can say is I’ve been lucky too. I’ve just never noticed any serious repercussions for showing my emotions. All I can think is that, since I was a pretty unpopular kid growing up, I gave so little of a shit about what the sort of people who would think negatively of me opening up emotionally would think about me that I just didn’t notice it even though it was happening. It would have just been one more dickhead move to ignore.
because people are mean and repeat the mean things that have been done to them, and difficult emotions make people uncomfortable and one way to avoid them is punishing people who do open up
I do not have the experience of being punished for opening up. Who has punished you for it?
You’re starting to sound hostile towards people who suffered
No, I just don’t understand it.
The vibe you’re giving is "I didn’t experience that, so you must be confused.’
Okay? But I literally said the opposite of that?
No, you didn’t
And as far as I can tell, the only one here being hostile would be you.
Your evidence is… the comment i responded to? Not very compelling. It doesn’t feature you giving any sympathy, just saying you don’t get it. And the implication thus far is that you simply can’t conceive of it happening. Not the most empathetic stance, is it?
It reminds me of the guys that claim sexism no longer exists, asking “but where is there any sexism?” And then shooting down all examples as not counting, continuing to ask “where is this sexism?”
not literally punished, but socially responded to negatively. I’ve been lucky that I haven’t experienced it much (and even then, I still struggle to open up), but it’s a very real thing. For men, one umbrella term that includes this concept is “toxic masculinity”
Yeah, I guess all I can say is I’ve been lucky too. I’ve just never noticed any serious repercussions for showing my emotions. All I can think is that, since I was a pretty unpopular kid growing up, I gave so little of a shit about what the sort of people who would think negatively of me opening up emotionally would think about me that I just didn’t notice it even though it was happening. It would have just been one more dickhead move to ignore.