If you don’t, no need to reply telling me you don’t. I live in the woods with some critters. I live pretty far from neighbors/police so having a gun gives me peace of mind. I also hunt and consider myself a gun hobbiest. I enjoy shooting targets, cleaning/organizing, reloading and earning food with guns.
Want.
Lifelong anti-gun libtard here.
I think guns are primarily for people who fear. I think fear is the primary motivator for firearm ownership. I would like to live in a society where fear doesn’t push people to own firearms. That is not our reality. That is not the society we live in.
There are masked, unqualified paramilitary federal goons entering our communities and harassing and assaulting AMERICAN CITIZENS. I passed my history classes. I enjoy reading up on history in my own personal time. I know where things like this often lead, and I’ve come to accept that it’s time to arm myself. A significant portion of our populace also supports what is happening and would be perfectly fine with people like myself, who want everyone to have healthcare, a good education, and to be fed, being “removed” from this plane of existence. These people are everywhere. I understand that they are not actively going out and killing people like me, but they are voting to persecute and harm people like me and the people I care about.
That’s enough for me to arm myself out of fear.
I don’t believe this to be a good society. I don’t believe this to be an intelligent society. I don’t believe this to be a safe society going forward.
I haven’t purchased a firearm yet, but I’ve been out shooting with friends a number of times and I’ve been asking questions to get ready for the process of acquiring at least one.
Liberal-libertarian here- I think the married gay couple should have AR15s to defend their marijuana crop and adopted children from attack, confident in the knowledge that single payer healthcare will be there if they get hurt.
I also follow history, at least a little. And I think even a light perusal of the last 100ish years should be enough to show anyone that ‘it can’t happen here’ / ‘it won’t happen here’ are foolish attitudes, as the current situations are demonstrating.
I’m curious if you regret your past support of anti-gun policies, knowing that they are directly making it harder for you to acquire a gun for self-defense today?
And FWIW if you have any gun questions or want to know anything about specific guns, safety, culture, etc please feel free to reply or DM me.
I’m curious if you regret your past support of anti-gun policies
Not really.
I’d prefer to live in a society that doesn’t perpetuate enough fear to cause people to desire firearms for self defense. Those societies do exist. And 10+ years ago things weren’t as they are now in America. The situation has degraded. We could have gone down another path that could have led to less fear and gun ownership, but that’s not the future we chose for ourselves.
So I’ve had to shift my expectations. That’s why I don’t really regret advocating against guns in the past. I still don’t like them. I still think more guns will cause more problems. But our society is becoming more ignorant and our decisions are going to lead to more people being more destitute and more desperate, which will increase crime, as political violence also increases, so the bottom line is you have to protect yourself.
I’d prefer to live in a society where no guns are ever needed.
The problem is, you can’t predict the future.I’d prefer to live in a society that doesn’t perpetuate enough fear to cause people to desire firearms for self defense. Those societies do exist. And 10+ years ago things weren’t as they are now in America. The situation has degraded. We could have gone down another path that could have led to less fear and gun ownership, but that’s not the future we chose for ourselves.
But that’s my point. 10+ years ago, you wouldn’t have predicted this. 10+ years ago, you’d have fought to restrict or remove gun rights. And now here we are, if you and those like you had succeeded, you wouldn’t be able to buy a gun.
That’s why I think gun rights (including yours) are so important, and why I hope you (someday) regret your previous anti-gun advocacy. Because however great our society is at any point in time, it can always get bad again. And the question is when that happens, do we want to have proverbially shot ourselves in the foot by removing our own means of self-defense? I say no.
Thus, if I may be a bit silly, an image for when you go into the gun store and have the right to buy that gun:
:D
I would argue that the ideal is a society where guns are readily available, but rarely needed. Might you agree with that?
Guns make the police in my area more polite. That was thing I witnessed following the Ukraine revolution as well. Marshal law is more costly on an armed unwilling population.
I also hunt as part of our wild life management where I live.
Its also something that as a maker I love to tinker and build stuff for. Just one of those because you can kind of things
For me firearm ownership is about responsibility and independence. If you’re going to eat meat, you should participate in the process and understand what it means. If you don’t trust the state with a monopoly on violence, you should be a part of distributing that power as widely as possible. Guns are one of the most powerful tools in the modern world, and I value them for the same reasons I value my drill or computer: they expand my capabilities.
I didn’t ever want one until Trump threatened Canada and now I’m getting licenced. Just in case. That and winter survival training refresher. Hadn’t done any of that since Scouts long ago.
I’d still die but maybe I last 20 minutes longer.
If the fasciats are going to try to kill me I will take at least one with me.
Police don’t show up quickly enough to deal with a serious threat, so I have a firearm for home defense. Just one. Not into collecting, whether firearms or anything else.
Need
With the political environment in the US I am increasingly feeling unsafe and feel like a gun is almost a must have now
I recently moved and got rid of mine. However, I used to live in a really rough neighborhood. A lot of heavy drug use. Most folks were good people when sober, but when high, they don’t think logically, and bad mixes can cause aggression. Thankfully never had to shoot anyone, but police were called a few times with guns at the ready in case things escalated before police arrived. My mom still lives in that area, so I left her with a 38 special, a 20 guage shotgun, and a habit of calling the police the moment anything feels off in the neighborhood.
I carried a CCW for years and finally gave it up because it’s a huge hassle to always have to be aware of. It’s a presence that doesn’t give me comfort, it made me always aware of its presence and that’s not how I want to experience the world. I would go back to carrying if I move to a more rural area again with less chance of immediate response of emergency services or other people.
I have guns for the same reason I have fishing rods and a bow. I enjoy it, and there’s some satisfaction in being able to hunt or fish for a meal yourself. I didn’t grow up getting to shoot much aside from a few rare afternoons out with a .22 when dad had time. While I fished a lot, didn’t really get into shooting or hunting until after college. I started small game hunting with friends who would go out. While I had a lot of catching up to do, since I hadn’t grown up hunting like they did, I eventually figured out how to clean game without making too much of a disaster of it. I enjoyed the independence of it, knowing more about the whole process and being able to do more for myself. Taught myself to tie flies, eventually started reloading my own ammo, then got further down the rabbit hole to casting bullets. For my leverguns with oversized bores (30-30 and 45-70), rolling my own ammo has been the best way for me to get decent accuracy. I have firearms because they’re useful tools, and it’s just darned fun to know that I cast the bullet that was loaded over the powder I measured, in the brass casing I trimmed and resized, and it hit the target waaay out there down range right where I wanted it to go.
Mostly, I enjoy target shooting as a hobby. Hunting is big in my area as both deer and feral hogs need to be culled.
I also feel there’s a greater chance of widespread civil unrest than most people understand, and that folks in my area will likely have to defend themselves to some extent if it breaks out. For various reasons, the people who are most important to me aren’t likely to be prepared for that, so I figure I should be ready to some extent.
Self defense against wildlife and shady humans when I’m solo camping
Need: no I do not
Want: pew pew explosions :DD
Do not want: sometimes I have the longing for death, also I’d be anxious about it being stolen and used for un-cool things, also seems expensive, also passive discomfort around a killing tool
Want, we have coyotes and I have a small dog. They usually stay away when I’m around but the last time they barely turned tail once I aggressively went to engage them after picking my dog up. He’s always on a leash but I feel more comfortable carrying a .22 with me when we go out after dark during the winter after that last encounter.
I had the same concern and instead got a big dog to watch over my small dog, my kids too but like also my small dog.
Great Pyrenees.
The coyotes don’t even come around anymore. 95lbs of the laziest guard dog ever is enough to deter them. And so good with the kids - they can lay on her and she don’t give a fuck. Though she can move when she needs to - I’ve seen her in action.
Best part is that she is always ready. I don’t gotta walk around with a gun, or run to get it from the safe. She is always there guarding us.
That said. The gun would have definitely been cheaper in the long run. My dog’s food budget quadrupled.
That sounds like the most incredible dog! Thank you for sharing
My dad is into guns, so he gave me one. And I sold it. And then he gave me another, and I guess I’ll hang onto this one for a bit.
Whilst I do enjoy the military history of guns and have been to a shooting range in the USA before I don’t want any in my home. Ifi had them before I might not have been around due to the relative easy way out.
Also they are very hard to get where I live. I like that a lot. I think that there a majority of stupid people that I think would be terrible gun owners around me. I think in general my life would be worse is a majority of people owned guns.
