Lid up -> cats drink toilet water
Lid down -> no toilet-face cats
(Seat down because lid is down)
Put the seat and the lid down before flushing.
I just put the lid down but I still leave the seat up when flushing.
That’s a weird loo. :)
There’s a University of Cork study showing that putting the lid down aerosolises more material so spreads bacteria etc. over the whole room, whereas having the lid open produces a smaller number of larger droplets that nearly all just fall straight back into the toilet. The lid is not sealing the toilet and preventing the need to clean the bathroom.
Can you link that study please?
I can’t get the full text, but https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/acmi/10.1099/acmi.fis2019.po0192 has the abstract. It looks like I misremembered its findings (or remembered an article that oversimplified them), though - having the lid down does something to the released particles to make more of them stay airborne for much longer, but it does reduce the number that escape, like you’d expect.
I think I did not understand your comment. Isn’t it the other way around?
My comment was explicitly pointing out that closing the lid can have the opposite of the intuitive effect and make things worse even though you’d expect it to make them better. It seems that I misrepresented the study’s findings, though, as while closing the lid does make particles remain airborne for much longer, so my overall point is sound, closing the lid does reduce the number of particles that initially become airborne.
closing the lid does reduce the number of particles that initially become airborne.
Significantly – 30-50%.
So to be clear: close the lid
That’s not the conclusion the study’s authors drew. The particles being airborne for longer means they can float further and contaminate things further away from the toilet, and also are more likely to end up inhaled. That could be a bigger problem than the number of particles initially released, so the study didn’t make a recommendation of whether the lid should be up or down. More research is required before anyone should be issuing definitive commands in bold to strangers on the internet.
No it’s not.
People of the penile persuasion can sit while peeing. It is very easy to do.
not with morning wood
Why do you have morning wood at a public toilet
I cannot believe my morning erections are being judged by trash girlfriend.
I am literally trash girlfriend and Ive never had morning wood at a public toilet
I feel like if I judge you its gotta be a good reason at that point
One day you will go to a public toilet to realize you have morning wood, then you will understand the struggle.
Waking up in a public toilet does sound fun but since Ive taken estrogen I dont ger morning wood often
so you saying the real solution for peeing with morning wood is estrogen?
i would transition but there’s no ikea near me for the mandatory Blahaj.
If we could simply choose when we got erections, high school would have been much less awkward
You or your classmates must have been quite bad at hiding them. I never noticed anyone having an erection in school and I never felt sexually attracted to anyone there either.
how the fuck do you piss with wood anyways? just wait 5 minutes
Use the force
Proceeds to pee like the guy in Upload
i was really impressed by the window trick
I like that some developer in that series went out of their way to ensure they could do not wrong when peeing. Out the window… 100% no splash
brother if you got wood how tf are you peeing sitting down. That shit pointing up
If it’s pointing up, how the fuck you hit the bowl standing up?
You step back real far and lean forward, stabilize with your hand on the tank. It might take a lil practice but it’s light years better than trying to bend it down
You can lean forward even better starting from a sitting position, chest down, hips up with slight rotation.
Leaning and hoping your hand doesn’t go through the drywall. Luckily for me by the time I gained weight I didn’t have the morning issues all the time.
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Yes, even with morning wood. Just lean a bit forward. It’s not that hard.
if it wasn’t that hard there wouldn’t be a problem to begin with
But pp touch toilet bowl = bad
That’s why I’m saying go lean forward. Come on guys, it’s not that difficult…
Not sure if you have a short dick or just very soft boners, but that’s a absolutely not possible for many men.
Maybe it’s US toilets. It’s statistically average and I’ve rarely had any issues. Still better than the spray while standing up.
WHY ARE SO FEW US TOILETS LONG BOYS
Well you and me know that but his thing is just so enormous we can not comprehend.
(aka excuses)
This is too absurd to even critique
It comes with the risk of contamination or infection if you’re well endowed.
I’m not well endowed, at best I’m average… at best. But while I don’t touch the water, I hit the front of the bowl. It’s disgusting to feel the cold porcelain.
scoot back
do such people also have to poop while standing?
No they just sling it round their neck for that.
Analyze the form factor of toilet. Is it one of those round ones that’s sized for potty-training a child? Emergencies only. The bowl deep enough and water low enough? Push dick down with one hand, hope Poseidon doesn’t kiss your willy. Stand up far to wipe, don’t sit down too fast. Try not to piss under the seat.
Prefer to avoid public restrooms for shits, stand up to pee.
i’m a bit confused on the geometry here. how can one risk both dipping ones dick in the drink, and peeing under the seat?
The seat is the problem not the water. You have to make a choice with some variety of toilets, touch the seat or get splashed. Obviously try to stay far enough away from both, but the point is, standing up is far easier than playing this game.
Why though.
Because splashback.
Just cause it’s easy doesn’t mean you should.
Also, it’s not easier than standing.
I find sitting easier than standing. It requires less attention (atleast if you have standards of the waste actually being in the pot).
do you like, have severe knee pain or something? that’s the only way i can see it being more difficult to sit down.
Even when sitting down we have to aim the nozzle manually, so it’s just sitting down for a moment then getting up, which normally is more work than standing there for a moment.
And (at least for me), it is more comfortable peeing standing up (albeit that might be because of a lifetime of doing it like that).
Another compromise is to pee in the shower. or better yet, on there indoor plants, this way we don’t need to water them.
Remember, there’s a difference between peeing in the shower and peeing into the shower.
SHOWER, But you barely know her
I know you’re joking, but pee has to be diluted 1:10 with water if you want to give it to your houseplants as fertilizer. Otherwise you will burn them
what if I developed a drinking problem and my pee becomes naturally diluted?
Dunkcore
Just the need of undoing your pants/belt already makes it easier to stand up.
And some seats have that front opening, which helps, otherwise there’s often not much room to pee sitting down.
Then there’s also some people who prefer to cover the seat with toilet paper before sitting down.
It’s easier to stand up.
Magic trick: With a skirt/kilt you don’t need to undo the belt!
Also isn’t the intersection of needing to undo ones belt and needing the front opening rather small?
And some seats have that front opening, which helps, otherwise there’s often not much room to pee sitting down.
Just leave the lid up and sit on the actual bowl itself
I’ll let you try that one
I don’t like it when my thing touchs the inside of the toilet its disgusting and other xommentters took the time to explain the simple reasons for you
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I’m a woman and will leave the seat up at work (not at home)
We have unisex toilets and truck drivers use them - they regularly wee all over the toilet seats if left down :(
if there is a lid - always down
if there is no lid - always up
it is the safest, cleanest, fairest option
we just leave it down at home. we talked about it one day and everyone with male excretory parts just wants to get off their feet. only time the seat lifts is for cleaning.
I’ve thought of this so many times. I’m fact, I’ve thought about a spring-loaded seat hinge that raises the seat unless there’s a person upon it. If the seat is always up, it is much less likely to be urinated upon. It takes the work completely out of the hands of the user.
Pooping is what unites us
Peeing while seated unites us
It seems like at least half of men can’t aim anyway, so it’s better to just sit down.
Even when aim is there, splashing occurs. It really shows that some men never had to clean their own bathrooms.
Also fuck you if you piss standing up in a stall when there’s pissoirs outside.
You want privacy for your little weenie, sit your ass down and scroll on your phone like normal people do.
Especially the ones who don’t have to clean the bathroom
Pooping with the seat up unites us
Ever tried pooping while standing? All I’m saying is don’t knock it if you haven’t tried it.
While standing?
Not from a janitor
The life aquatic leads to many powers trousered society would deem unnatural
Pooping in the shower unites us
The squat toilet is for pooping what the urinal is for wee. If you have really baggy trousers and are freeballing you don’t even need to undo your belt.
This reminds me of the time I was a kid and a houseguest was using our toilet like this with the door opened and I barfed when I saw him doing a shit with his shoes on our toilet seat
Cool though
But like, if men pee with the seat up, but both men and women poop with the seat down, then statistically the seat is already down more than half of the time. Now if we enforce a policy like this, that would mean more than half of the times someone walks in and needs the seat to be down is in luck, but the rest has to do double the “work”. And if someone goes in after someone who would have otherwise left the seat up, they too do double the work, so the seat changes position 4 times instead of once. I think it’s much more “just” to simply change the seat whenever you need it and sometimes you will even find it in the position you need it in.
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yeah some people like to fall in
Yeah it’s a silly sign and they should relax.
Leave the seat down so when you flush you won’t inhale your poop and pee.
Cmon it’s not hard.
Edit: and lid.
I think just being an organism with an anus leads to higher levels of poop exposure than whatever minuscule amount of particulate matter that manages to aerosolize from an unlided flush
Yes, but I already have all the diseases that I have. I don’t need to add all the diseases everyone else has too, or vice versa.
You mean the lid infested of the seat?
I once jokingly mentioned to my wife that leaving the seat up is just as convenient for me as leaving it down is for her. To which she pointed out that, of the four different permutations of toilet use between us, 3/4 require the seat to be down, so all in all, it makes sense to leave the seat down.
And dammit, I had to marry a logical autistic, didn’t I?
So now I always (try to remember to) leave the seat down.
I tend to sit down to pee most times (at home), so that ratio is even higher for us…
At home both of those are invalid. You close the lid before you flush so you don’t spread particles everywhere (among many other benefits)
Everyone opens the lid/seat to the desired level. Everyone does their business. Everyone closes the lid. Everyone flushes and washes their hands.
True gender equality!
This is the correct answer
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I mean, it’ll be less than 3/4 if you always stand to pee, because people pee more often than they poop (of they hydrate sufficiently and there’s no health issue). But it’ll still definitely be over half, so the result is the same.
That’s just basic math. +Sit the fuck down when pissing at home. Who is paying you to stand while taking a piss when you could sit down?
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Sit to pee for all. Solves all problems.
I’ve been to men’s restroom before. I wouldn’t sit on that unless extremely necessary. Even then, I’d wipe that ship clean and cover it in toilet paper first
I do wonder if they all sat whether that’d solve it, though. That is, if it’d be cleaner. Or maybe they don’t need to sit to keep it clean. Idk
I’ve worked maintenance for many years and I can assure there is no difference between men’s and women’s rest rooms other than there being urinals, they’re all disgusting, we’re all disgusting, all bathrooms are just wild animal shit houses.
Really? I’d expected cleaner. I mean, they sit. I don’t know how women pee, honestly. Like, how the flow goes. But I can say from experience peeing into a toilet while standing up can be difficult. Pee, y u no single stream straight into toilet?
I can assure you, sitting down to use the bathroom does not stop people from pissing and shitting all over the place. We’re gross animals.
Does it work the other way around? Does “pissing and shitting all over the place” “stop people from” “sitting down to use the bathroom”?
From my understanding there is a technique called “hover squatting.”
What’s that got to do with saving money, though?
From my experience, it depends on where. Malls and things like that where there are many people of all different demographics absolutely are equally disgusting. Semi-private washrooms tend to be less disgusting overall, but women’s are usually at least a little cleaner. Standing to pee causes splashes. Enough human traffic and and the whole place smells like a hamster cage that doesn’t go away unless the whole damn bathroom is flooded in sanitiser.
Women piss all over toilet seats and floors all the time, even in fancy places, don’t kid yourself. Any bathroom in any location is only as clean as the staff makes it, if left alone every public or semi-private bathroom would be covered in shit and piss within a day and there are no gender lines. I’ve worked at classy joints and dives and if not tended to by staff every toilet will be covered in piss and shit in ways that I personally cannot comprehend. Women’s only toilets get covered in just as much piss and shit as men’s toilets. Most people don’t ever see both restrooms and assume theirs is either cleaner or dirtier than the opposite gender, but as someone who deals with both on a general basis, animal shit houses the lot of them.
Hi. Been in, worked in both. My experience with bathrooms doesn’t invalidate yours. Both can be true. Hell, we’re probably not in the same country, so social norms can play a factor, and like I said before, demographics make a big difference in a lot of things. Which drug residues are left on the back of the toilet, for example.
I’m sorry you have such strong feelings about people and public bathrooms. It’s definitely a shitty experience (pun intended). It’s a weird hill to die on though.
I had a cat that trained me to sit down to pee.
The only time I could ever get her to purr was when when I was sat on the toilet. So, of course, I began sitting down to pee in order to maximise her purring and fusses. And it kinda stuck.
nooooope not putting my cheeks on that unless necessary
seat up, squat a bit, and aim to reduce splash. wipe when done no matter what it looks like
Men that pee standing up (except urinals, or bushes) just like to make their life a tiny bit worse for no reason at all.
At home, yes. Out in the wild? Hell nah. That shi nasty (usually)
Your butt skin is far more robust than you give it credit for.
Damn, he got the velcro
If you raise it, put it back down when you’re done. If you put it down, put it back up when you’re done. That seems fair.
Alternatively, if there’s a lid, close the lid when you’re done. Then everyone is equally “inconvenienced”.
I always close the lid so things don’t fall in
Most The public bathrooms around me, don’t have lids for the toilet.
I’ve come across a few in my travels
the ones that don’t flush, if you close the lid the smell vents outdoors
In my house, the toilet seat and lid are down when not in use. Because I have a cat and she’s the kind of idiot that will jump into the toilet and then track toilet water into my bed.
I try to do the same. My cat can get a little carried away with his toys and sometimes they’ll get swatted into the toilet
Biased how. Do the math. Half of us sit down to pee, all of us sit down to shit.
Also, as someone with male plumbing, we can also sit down to pee. So everyone can sit to pee, and half of us can’t.
Especially with the men that complain about how hard it is to control the stream, might as well sit down.
But then they won’t get to complain about how hard it is to lift the seat
not to well actually, but once you figure out a female urinal they are kinda nice. according to my mother who spent all last week texting me every time she used one on her hiking trip
That’s a thing?
anyone can pee standing up it’s the 21st century
I’m not sure I wanna see that proliferate. My trans ass could never
My mom was So. Excited. I stopped peeing standing up when I was 25 because legs tired but like I get it when it’s your first week doin it. We told her to aim for leaves and pay attention to which way the wind was blowing because upwind is a mistake you only make once.
She’s back home from her backpacking trip, I don’t think she’s still using the urinal.
The little sleeve thingy? My wife tried to use one but didn’t try it at home first. There was no bathroom/pit toilet out there either. They tried but couldn’t do it. It took me a bit to realize but once you make the connection that literally their entire life they have never had to pee standing up it makes sense that their body is just like nope can’t do it. They ended up holding onto a tree and squatting while I kept watching for critters/moral support. It was dark out and spooky.
That night I think a raccoon sniffed around our tent which was cool.
Biased meaning only men have to do any work, women never have to (if it’s left down always)
True neutral would be last used position.
*most of us sit to shit. Given a large enough population I won’t rule out the possibility.
thank you for your consideration. i shit everywhere
Found the diaper-wearer.
no but a good guess
Lol
I put the lid down, don’t want toilet water splashing all over the place when you flush.
I put the lid down, too. But only so that the cat doesn’t drink from it.
Soft close toilet seats should be standard equipment.
Then putting the lid down is a matter of a single light push.
I never understood the whole “you left the toilet seat up” complaint. Never been an issue in my family but have heard “he never puts the seat down” all the time. Is it that much effort to put the toilet seat down when you need to go?
Edit: Always close the toilet seat cover, not just lowering the toilet seat. This is for both men and women.
When flushing you should absolutely close the lid. Otherwise water droplets from the toilet get flung all over the place.
But then the next person lifts it and discovers your Toblerone of a shit is still proudly sitting there.
Then you open it after flushing to check and potentially clean skidmarks?
its gross, bruh.
I agree which is why I put the lid down but I’m asking about the toilet seat.