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Mickey7@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 1 month ago

A funny thing about Americans and calendar dates

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  • TabbsTheBat@pawb.social
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    As someone from a yyyy-mm-dd country, you’re all wrong /hj

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      yyyy-mm-dd is specified by ISO 8601, so there’s really no argument it isn’t the objectively correct format.

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        There’s also RFC3339, which is freely available and compatible with the most common ISO8501 profile.

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          What about RFC 9557, which is an update to RFC 3339?

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            I had not heard of that one, thanks! Looks like a good extension.

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            Weird question, if it’s called “Request For Comments”, where do we post the comments?

    • Lembot_0001@lemm.ee
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      And what is that country? Unixopia? Linukstadt? Databaseo?

      • TabbsTheBat@pawb.social
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        Lithuania if you want the serious answer :3… china, japan, both koreas, taiwan, bhutan, mongolia and hungary also use it

        But yes, im from linuxstan :3

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          How is it living in a theocracy worshipping our lord and savior Richard Stallman?

          • grue@lemmy.world
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            “There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its kernels.”

            Anyway, the point of linking that page is that RMS is a saint, not a god.

      • Ziglin (it/they)@lemmy.world
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        Germany officially specified it for documents for a while but that was amended to also allow for dd.mm.yyyy since not enough people actually used ISO 8601.

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      Why can’t Trump use unitary executive theory to do something good…like force everyone to use ISO 8601.

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        Nah. Someone would make up some convoluted and confusing template, pass it to Trump as “freedom dates”, and he’s sign it without reading.

        And then head right back to the golf course to mooch even more tax dollars.

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        Would probably claim it’s chinese propaganda or smth, and then go back to golfing

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        Doing dumb shit like imperial, farenheit and mm dd yyyy is the most conservative thing possible. By definition.

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    • dutchkimble@lemy.lol
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      It’s the only correct way to save file names

    • sittinonatoilet@sopuli.xyz
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      I’m similar I just don’t use - or anything. Works well when I sort concert recordings.

      yyyymmdd Venue City State

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      As long as month goes in the middle and the year is 4 digits, no confusion.

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    Both are wrong. The correct way to write the date is YYYY-MM-DD. This is the only way to sort dates linearly in a list. ISO 8601.

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      It’s frustrating that people are so bad at dates that ISO8601 lives rent-free in my head because I constantly have to tell people ;)

    • kameecoding@lemmy.world
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      Hungarian is close enough

      YYYY.MM.DD

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        I can be OK with that

        But not with having elected the Trump of EU

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          Bro, trump is learning from Orbán if anything Trump is the US Orbán, fuck both of them too

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        ♥️ this is what I decide to use at work. Dots are superior than dashes in my opinion because they prevent line breaks

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          I like dashes because they work better than dots or slashes for file names.

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            How so? At least dots haven’t prevented me in the past (windows, Mac, android, various cloud storage).

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              Most OSes will let you do it but 2025.01.01.png could have issues compared to 2025-01-01.png. Plus I think it’s a little clearer what the file type actually is.

              Its just a little pedantic thing I’ve picked up after years of being a sysadmin. In my mind slashes (/) are reserved for directory delimitation and the period (.) is to separate the file name from the file type. I also have a little bit longer of a list of “reserved” characters for other reasons (%, #, and {`}`)

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      In Arabic we use DD/MM/YYYY but it actually gets written as YYYY/MM/DD since Arabic is written and read from right to left. When the year is dropped the confusing part is not what format is used here but rather does this website/software support RTL or is it just regular unformatted ASCII.

      Edit: it’s still not ISO 8601 and it doesn’t solve the sorting issue

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        Should work if you have an RTL invert character before, right? (Not that you could name files with the slashes.)

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          RTL invert characters are just for rendering purposes it doesn’t help with sorting also in older systems sometimes it was not supported.

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            But if you type it as “[RTL invert]yyyy/mm/dd” it is automatically sorted correctly in ltr parsing systems but still displayed correctly (assuming it is supported which it seems to be on most devices nowadays).

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              You want it displayed as “yyyy/mm/dd” so it’s actually “[RTL]dd/mm/yyyy”

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                Ah, I read the original comment backwards.

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      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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        Our lives involve computers to a huge degree.

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      And, when the context of the year is understood, you can just drop it. At least Japanese does this (and I’m pretty sure Chinese does as well).

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        You shouldn’t do that, because if you’re writing it down it means you want to either refer to it later or have someone else refer to it later. The year changes and you’re searching for that receipt or email… why set yourself up for failure?

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          BRB – I have to tell the country of Japan they’re doing dates wrong /s.

          For the things I’m thinking about, the year generally doesn’t matter. I’m thinking advertisements or even things that say like ‘Spring 2025 menu 2025年の春メヌー’ or something which preserves context. A lot are also written on shop whiteboards and such which are changed fairly regularly. In my own notes, in anything I may care about that far into the future, I do write the full date in ISO-8601

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          • Ziglin (it/they)@lemmy.world
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            I try to do this, though I’ve only started relatively recently. I like my data.

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    Why is the format not:

    2025/4/12

    Biggest time frame to smallest time frame (year, month, then day)?

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      ISO8601 FTW!

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      2025/4/12

      Don’t forget leading zeroes, we’re not half assing this!

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        02025/04/012

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      For written format that is ideal but when talking about a date, say in two weeks time, saying the year is redundant.

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      my guess is order of relevance.

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      Canada uses this

      yyyy/mm/dd

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      In my computer engineering course this is literally how we were told to write the date on our lab reports.

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      This is how I do it- my folders and files are super easy to find

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    Coldest take: if any common date format is difficult for you, you’re a little bit ridiculous

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      It’s all fun and games until someone drops a 7/4 and you don’t know which country they’re from

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        November 9 never forget.

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        I only deal with people from one country, but I always write out the month so there’s no confusion in important messages. Even including the day of the week as a type of verification.

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        Context clues are enough for me, 4/7 times

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        I usually go for if it has a / its probably US date formate…

        We use dots in our Locale

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          RIP Australia and our DD/MM/YYYY (and rest of the former British Empire I assume).

          Drives me nuts when software doesn’t properly localise.

          Looking at you, Excel for web which defaults to MM/DD/YYYY in our company for some reason, even though the desktop app has no issues…

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      MM/DD/YYYY genuinely causes issues, because it’s very easily misread by the rest of the world, and vise versa for Americans.

      I have been mislead more than once, because the MM and DD are both ≤ 12.

      MM/DD/YYYY needs to die

      Month Day YYYY is fine, because it’s unambiguous when the month is spelled out.

      YYYY.MM.DD, or similar, is the only way to sort dates properly anyway.

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        I don’t actually disagree with anything you said, I was just being a bit cheeky

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      Happy not allowed! There can only be one correct date format!

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    What Americans are calling people idiots for saying (day) of (month)? We say it both ways all the time. 4th of July, July 4th… it’s not a complicated thing.

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      It’s like saying USAians don’t have a sense of humour. Some USAians are MAGAt knob heads, some are perfectly reasonable people. More or less like anywhere else.

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      That is a weird one: every other date is “normal” order but for some reason this is an exception. Also weird that we call it with backward date more often than its actual holiday name

      • July 4 is a normal date
      • Independency Day is the name of the holiday
      • so why do we usually refer to it as “Fourth of July”
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        We don’t say July 4 because that’s a normal date, we don’t say Independence Day because there are so many of those on different days for different countries.

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    What do you think of DD/HH/YYYY/Min/MM/Sec?

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      Could be improved by swapping hours and minutes. They are more important after all.

      Also that way the time isn’t in order anymore.

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    I like DD MON YYYY. Feels very grand and unambiguous, but people always look at me funny for using it.

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      I’ve been told I need to redo paperwork because I marked the date like 12APR2025.

      I get standardization for computers, but for something a person is going to look at I feel like it’s very direct, needs no explanation or interpretation. Anyone who sees it should be able to figure it out instantly.

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        There is very little room for interpretation even if you don’t know the date format. That’s BS.

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        To be fair I read it as 12A PR 2025 (yes I am stupid). It could also be the 12th version of the main PR of 2025. I’m not great with abbreviations and when it comes to months I’m also not used to it. Numbers seem superior to me.

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    The holiday “The Fourth of July” happens on July 4th. Not hard.

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      July 4th

      How many Julies do you have there in the US? 5? 7?

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        We had one, yes, but what about fourth July?

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      To be fair the holiday is actually Independence Day

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    With the way things are going over there, the whole thing falls apart soon enough and this issue can be fixed in the rebuild.

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    None of this dumb shits going to matter when the meteor sephiroth summoned blows the earth up

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      Of course it will still matter. You’ll need a calendar just to time out the animation for that spell it’s so fucking long.

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    I’m an American and do day/month/year.

    I thought this was how it was done everywhere?

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      So the holiday that’s coming up in a week… Is it 4/20, or 20/4?

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        4/20 blaze it.

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          You’re Goddamn right.

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      Where in the US? I’ve never seen anything online where a US entity uses DD/MM/YYYY, or do you mean the month is spelled out?

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    We say it thats way for the benefit of the British.

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      Very independent.

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    Americans can't count that high

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    Don’t you mean Eramicans?

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    Why can’t we just call it Independence Day, that’s what it’s actually called

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      Sorry, that’s copyrighted.

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