• DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Starmer’s visit was pointless Zelensky’s visit was pointless

    stop trying to appeal to the better nature of monsters.

    Close the book on US/EU relations, NATO is dead. America is controlled by the Russian Mafia now.

    Europe, prepare for war. America, prepare for the dominion of Fasicsm, and civil war

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      7 hours ago

      Before completely cutting off ties from the US showing the public attempts had been made for diplomacy and providing evidence of what a bad actor US has become is important.

      Showing is way more impactful and supports moves made afterwards than just making claims and cutting ties.

      So not completely pointless, since the public needs to be able to come to the conclusion themselves first before drastic foreign relation changes can be made.

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      11 hours ago

      Not necessarily monsters (actually yeah they are), but he has a 40 year history of being compromised and owned by Soviet and Russian oligarchs. I’m reading “American Kompromat” now and it couldn’t be clearer. It’s not even hidden or anything. The Russians really just, won the Cold War. They did it, they toppled the US. Good job for them.

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        11 hours ago

        The Russian Mafia won the war,

        the nation itself is fucked. regardless of what happens. they’ve been doomed for a while.

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          11 hours ago

          If your definition of the Russian Mafia includes, the Kremlin, then yes. Putin and co are absolutely gangster scum that work hand in hand with the actual mafia and international criminal organizations. Sure the actual people of Russia are fucked (just as with any country of a dictator).

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            10 hours ago

            the russian federation is just a medieval imperial entity masquerading as a federated state. And its society is just a totem pole of people getting used as assets and cattle

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJgr-0t-RPc this more describes the political totem pole within the country,

            but demographically, the country is a totem pole too. Moscow and St Petersburg rule the rest of the country like bandit kings.

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      12 hours ago

      How is NATO dead, just because the US is no longer reliable the rest of the countries can still respond

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        12 hours ago

        NATO was a tool of American influence. Just as the Warsaw pact was a tool of Russian influence.

        The trans-atlantic partnership is over. NATO is obsolete, a successor is needed. America has checked out,

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          NATO is still usefull as a framework for cooperation with the UK, Turkey, Canada and Norway.

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          NATO was that, but it may very well continue on as something else. Without the US mind you, but nothing says the rest of the NATO countries can’t just decide to stay in.

          Of course it might also be a good time for them to all make the international equivalent of the No Homer’s Club. Either way.

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          12 hours ago

          Nato is not dead just because the US leaves it. The EU wasn’t dead either after the UK left.

          • DicJacobus@lemmy.world
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            12 hours ago

            the US and Hungary have no reason to officially leave NATO because they can sabotage it from within and use it to blackmail and steer Europe into the position they want, being puppets of Russia and US.

            the last thing America wants is a detatched Europe that isnt allied with them, they see independent Europe as a hostile entity, they are only interested in Europe being vassal states.

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          I wasn’t convinced at first that NATO is dead on Trump’s first term. But here we are and it is a long time coming.

          Some analysts think that the unipolar world is over, and that we’re heading into a multipolar world again but dominated by regional blocs. The EU is definitely there, and sometime later the African Union will become more cohesive and globally influential. But I don’t see Latin America having as strong regional grouping as the EU. In Asia, we can forget it because Asians tend to be insular. There is ASEAN but they do not have the same solidarity as the EU.

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            8 hours ago

            You forgot to mention China. Unless the EU gets its shit together and resists the same forces that are destroying the US, China is going to become that unipole.

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          12 hours ago

          For one why limit it to the North Atlantic? Japan, South Korea, and Australia should get in on the action too. And France and the UK can help them all get nukes (yes I mean that seriously - US and Russia being the only large nuclear powers is a disaster). Now would be a great time for the stable democracies (not the US) to create a new alliance.

          • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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            South Korea and particularly Japan doesn’t need help getting nukes. Japan in particular has never been afraid of showing an advanced space program(for icbm technology) and their immense plutonium stockpile. They could assemble ICBMs that could target anywhere in the world in a matter of weeks.

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              Yeah, but if they can do it that fast on their own, imagine how much faster they can get it done with help.

              Besides, if China starts getting a little froggy Japan and South Korea are going to need a lot more than a few armaments to ward them off.

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          8 hours ago

          Under Putin’s Sock Puppet, most certainly. However, the US MIC might hold the key to bring the USA back to being the USA.

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      9 hours ago

      A united EU against today russia? Doubt will last weeks. But we are too afraid.