• OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca
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    18 days ago

    Somehow businesses have managed to convince people it’s normal to waste countless hours of their life listening to someone else tell them what they need to buy so they can be happy and fulfilled. We’re bombarded by it. Radio, TV, internet, social media, busses, billboards, flyers, junk mail, email spam. It’s everywhere. It completely pervades our society and lives. It’s pervasive and it’s anything but normal.

    It’s a sign of a seriously sick culture, and somehow we’ve all become brainwashed and numb to its harmful effects.

    • mox@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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      You might find Edward Bernays and his impact on advertising interesting.

      One of the numerous problems for America’s magnates was the consumption of the average citizen. Many only purchased what they really needed, a behaviour which moguls wanted to change. The Wall Street banker Paul Mazur summarised this in a particularly straightforward manner: ‘We must shift America from a needs to a desires culture’, he wrote in 1927 in the Harvard Business Review. ‘People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old have been entirely consumed.’

      https://www.historytoday.com/miscellanies/original-influencer

      https://www.npr.org/2005/04/22/4612464/freuds-nephew-and-the-origins-of-public-relations

      https://theconversation.com/the-manipulation-of-the-american-mind-edward-bernays-and-the-birth-of-public-relations-44393

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        18 days ago

        Economy goes brrr. He needs a special circle of hell. And perhaps if not him it would have been someone else, but he was the one who brought upon consumerism, planned obsolescence, and the whole “keeping up with the Jones”.

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        17 days ago

        Christ on a bike, imagine finding out Goebbels used your methods to murder millions, and you still didn’t realise that you’re a cunt 😬

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      With exceptions of few countries, I believe the modern society is closer to the novel Brave New World than 1984 story. People have been convinced to accept control by way of pleasure. To forget the mundane and realities of life in exchange for gratification by constant triggering of our own biochemistry that induces the feeling of pleasure. We are encouraged buy the things we don’t need to impress the people we don’t like, so that consumer spending will keep the all-mighty economy kept being fed. But if we complain that we don’t have enough left for essentials, then we are told it’s because we keep buying iPhone or avocado toast. The media will say that the economy is slowing down because of less consumer spending, but then chastise us for doing the exact same thing we are told to do: spend and spend.

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      17 days ago

      Imagine a generation of people centering even their nostalgia around commercial products instead of interpersonal relationships and life experiences. Those things are replaced by products that are becoming crucial to creating it, like game consoles, commercials, printed media - just abysmal

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        What’s abysmal?

        People are going to have nostalgia for the the things they grew up with.
        The house you grew up in, your neighbourhood, the school you went to, tv shows, games, whatever.

        These things don’t replace nostalgia for interpersonal relationships and life experiences, they supplement them.

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        17 days ago

        I put on a Youtube channel of 80’s commercials as a pre-roll before a scheduled meeting, it was wildly popular

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          17 days ago

          There are a few channels that will run 8-10 hour Sunday morning cartoon compliations with commercials included. For some reason I really like those even when I hate almost all other ads.

    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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      17 days ago

      It completely pervades our society and lives. It’s pervasive and it’s anything but normal.

      perverts. it’s perverted. a more fitting word.

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      17 days ago

      It okay

      If they can afford advertising then their product is overpriced and not worth your time

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      17 days ago

      Please also include all the bullshit random toys, card games, loot boxes, and other garbage people like to pretend are not gambling.

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      17 days ago

      So recently our local government relaxed the rules on sports betting / advertising. It’s now everywhere. When you go to see our local MLB team the stadium is coated in bright LEDs advertising bet dot com.

    • ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk
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      17 days ago

      Now gambling firms have ads that tell you not to use them.

      I’m wouldn’t mind if it was “you have increased your limit once today, you can’t do that for 48 hours now” then 60, then 120, or something. But no, it’s just “set limits”, that you can change whenever you want…

    • AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world
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      18 days ago

      Just in case it’s not obvious, they mean an English muffin, a kind of flat bread roll. In the UK that’s what they sell for breakfast at McDonald’s (sausage and egg, bacon and egg etc).

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        You know, this is the first time I’ve witnessed a country refer to something we call [country] [thing] as just [thing]

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          A sausage and egg McMuffin does not look like a muffin. It actually does look like an English muffin because that’s what it is.

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            Oh course the McMuffin is served on a muffin. But when I just hear “muffin” by itself I don’t think of the sandwich including sausage and egg and cheese and whatnot. You have to actually say “McMuffin” to conjure that image. Otherwise I just think of a plain English muffin.

            It would be like if they said they were banning advertisements for buns. While a hamburger is typically served on a bun, just saying bun alone doesn’t really include the entire sandwich. I could serve a hamburger in a lettuce wrap, or on sliced sourdough or something other than a bun. If McDonald’s served their sausage and egg on a lettuce wrap, would that circumvent this ad ban?

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        Oooh right of course. I’ve not had a maccies breakfast in a while and kinda forgot. Most breakfast places I’ve ever been to just sell “baps”, “rolls” or “butties” even if they end up serving it on a muffin roll

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        Lol. Most English people don’t even know what an English Muffin is, they are less common there then they are in the US.

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            They are an American invention and are way more popular here than in England. They exist in England, they are marketed as “muffins”, but they aren’t terribly popular.

            (Finding English muffin sales data is harder then I had expected.)

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              I’m English, I assure you people here eat them all the time!

              Are you sure they were invented in America? That seems very unlikely to be true so I googled it, wikipedia says recipes for muffins appeared as early as 1747 in English cookbooks…

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                I think the sourdough variety had a popular brand started in San Francisco in the early to mid 1900s, I think sometimes that gets mixed up with being the first instead of being a popular version that wasn’t really available elsewhere to Americans last century.

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                You know, after further research I am now second guessing myself. It’s something I have always been told, and half of it is from family who were living in England saying that almost nobody eats them.

                Now I am wondering if my assertion is only based on half facts and anecdotal evidence.

                As for the invention itself, I can only find evidence of vague recipes that don’t seem to representative of the English muffin we know today.

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    17 days ago

    Next, they will make healthy food affordable, right ? Right ???

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    Finally. It always baffeed me that it’s legal to advertise bread covered sugar to children

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    Odd to hear of old Blighty coming out with a level-headed policy after the last decade or so of wank governance.

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    What’s wrong with muffins? Meh, who cares. Muffins sell themselves by being muffins.

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        Yes it does. It’s only offered on an irregular basis, so for the people that would only go to McDonald’s for the McRib, and no other item, would need to be notified when it’s available.

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    You can’t advertise a burger during the day? To protect kids health? Weird

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      Yeah I thought so too. You don’t have to buy your kid anything they ask for, it’s your job as a parent to set boundaries.
      Unless they’re trying to make the parents think of burgers less often, so they’re less likely to buy crap for their kids.
      Either way, it seems like the government is doing your parenting for you.

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      I mean you shouldn’t be advertising dead animals in general as far as I’m concerned, it’s not good for the animals, us, nor the planet. ¯_(ツ)_/¯