• wise_pancake@lemmy.ca
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    14 days ago

    You know what would be useful in a societal collapse? Electric vehicles and solar panels.

    Hopefully peppers aren’t building zombie busses because they’ll be useless in 6 months after the oil stops flowing.

    An ev with a charger panel and bicycles will be useful indefinitely.

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      14 days ago

      When society collapses, upwards of around 95-100% of us die. That’s reality.

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      14 days ago

      you would get murdered for those rather quickly, i’d imagine. what would be useful is to get far away from strangers somewhere defendable near fresh water.

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        14 days ago

        That would be only one of the many competing reasons for my murder.

        I do have camping gear, woodworking hand tools, a good bike, I know how to shoot and clean fish+game and cook, and I have knowledge of some remote areas with sparse populations including their flora.

        On paper it all sounds good, but I would likely die miserably in the first Canadian winter.

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          13 days ago

          Even if you did everything right there isn’t that much wildlife to live off of. A single human requires a vast healthy wilderness to live off of foraging only.

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            13 days ago

            Yeah, I watch Alone and I’ve seen Outlast. No way are 99% of people going to be able to live like that. Even the contestants who prep and practice and research only last a few weeks in the winter.

            You would need a small community, agriculture and to store your food for winter, and livestock for reliable protein. Even then there’s a good chance you get wiped out by diseases unless you’re making soap and prepping food and water safely.

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              12 days ago

              But once you’ve figured out a way to store food and resources, then you’re a target. You can’t easily defend against bands of looters with tons of weapons and nothing to lose

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        12 days ago

        Maybe. I’ve wondered about that. It’s easy to imagine a Mad Max scenario with bands of raiders looting all potentially useful technological remains, but does solar change that? You can’t as easily steal that without destroying it. You can’t just put it to use without some technical knowledge. It’s not immediately useful to loot.

        Destroy, sure.

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      14 days ago

      That’s why Musk is backing Trump and Putin and trying to turn the world into Thunderdome. EVs will reign supreme.

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      14 days ago

      Don’t worry, we’ll fix climate change by reflecting sunlight before it hits the Earth’s surface. Of course this will eradicate most pests (and nature) but hey, problem solved!