or prison for the chump you suckered into cheap labour.

I’m not seeing the ‘or’ bit. The article says the driver was already sentenced to nine years back in 2019. So it might be prison and deportation.

It also says he was a new permanent resident when the crime was committed. I’m surprised how they can so easily deport someone who has PR.

allow this situation to happen and all its gonna be is a civil fine for you

Alas, this is the real problem. And this case/hearing isn’t going to affect the precedent on that, it will only affect the precedent for the future chumps.

David Weber’s Honorverse and Mother of Demons by Eric Flint both come to mind. There is also the Little Fuzzy series by H. Beam Piper.

Edit: Also, The Legacy of Heorot by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.

Honorable mention also to Dragons Egg by Robert L. Forward (humans start out more advanced in the beginning but get surpassed) and the Uplift Storm trilogy omnibus (or books 4-6) from David Brin (humans aren’t the most advanced in the entire universe but are in the planet that the stories take place on).

It did work well for reddit imvho as it’s understood that reddit definitely lost revenue and users as a result - but that might also not apply to FB so well in this case; as the reddit one was global rather than specific to a single country, and reddit was already unprofitable to begin with - whereas this is boycotting what’s likely an already unprofitable line for a very profitable company.

Just goes to show how low the new owner is…

Why is former Twitter even doing that? I thought only G and FB were affected, as it was based on company size. Supposedly Twitter is (still) not profitable, even.

Pretty cool…

Edit: Not sure why this showed up on my notifications just now when it was posted a month ago. But glad I got to saw it either way.

I thought that this was also a particularly good take: https://kbin.social/m/Canada/p/902052/Canada-The-provinces-are-more-keen-to-blame-the-federal

Though I do wonder - why not just give a token approval from the province, and then let the feds take over and nationalize the landfill? The federal gov’t then take on the bill so the provincial gov’t gets what it wants, and the families get the search they want as well. Seems like an everybody wins scenario.

Agreed 100% - it’s like arguing that the search magically becomes more safe if there was a guarantee that the victims would be found, which doesn’t make sense. The risk is the same regardless. (Well, I suppose if they make the findings right away without having to search the entire landfill, that might reduce the risk due to less overall exposure, but even with a guarantee there’s no reason to assume the findings would happen right away as opposed to at the very end of the three year time frame after most of the dump was searched).

“Any argument, I guess, that would oppose those findings, in our opinion, aren’t necessarily based in fact.”

On the one hand, I kind of agree that the arguments presented so far seem pretty thin and were addressed by the report already. So would agree with this statement for those arguments.

On the other hand, this seems to discount the possibility that there might be any counterargument against the approach in the report period, regardless of that counterargument’s validity. In terms of safety, I’ve not seen any yet, but I at least allow for the possibility that some might exist.

Though, the fact that the provincial gov’t hasn’t provided any yet, despite being highly motivated to do so, might mean that there aren’t really any.

Even so, I think one should take the attitude of being open to addressing any counterarguments as they come in on rather than dismissing everything outright in advance.

Ah, okay. Yeah, different jurisdiction (and thus different police departments with slightly different operating rules) makes more sense in this context.

Something is off here actually. The police showed up when soil got dumped on his front steps, but they didn’t bother to investigate the soil dumping of the memorial.

Okay, so someone’s private home (or even the public space immediately adjacent to a private home) is different from a more public place like a landfill. Even so, bad optics for the provincial gov’t … again …

Personally I would have preferred one step back - dumping soil on the public property surrounding his home in a way that it requires him to shovel the sidewalk before he can drive out. He dumped soil on a public spot iiuc, so the response should have been the same, whereas his front steps would count as his own private property.

But otherwise agree, the response was in kind and proportional.

I agree the money could be put to better use, but it’s not even being proposed. The money is just being used as an excuse to swat down people that have been swatted down their entire lives.

That’s exactly it. At least keep talking to them and try to find a middle ground proposal.

I’m not a fan of going ahead with the search. The risks to the searchers and the environment (risk of toxic leaching, etc) is too great in my opinion.

So the article links to another which mentions a report that was made on the feasibility of conducting the search, and it seems that this is disputed somewhat. It’s claimed by the other side that there is a way to conduct the search in relative safety, and the report outlines what measures would need to be taken.

Anyways, I find myself in complete agreement with what you wrote:

Maybe it wouldn’t have become so dangerous and impractical if we had taken action on this much earlier. The delays have made it worse and each continued delay makes it even moreso I expect.

To me, the above is an argument for starting the search now (instead of waiting longer and making it even riskier and more expensive later).

No single entity that I’m aware of would but I was hoping that a number of charitable foundations and NGOs with large endowments might be able to come together.

Even if this did happen, but then they couldn’t come up with the full price tag, it might still be the case that their substantial contributes might be enough to get public funding for the remainder.

I guess the point is that this isn’t even being considered as an option. It’s just a flat no, we won’t even talk about it anymore sort of denial.

A fascinating piece of history. I wonder what the engineers actually did to right the structure afterwards…

This is pretty awful. Surely there must be something that can be done for the families of those unfortunate women - if nothing else, perhaps a federally funded search or private funding?

At the very least, the city could agree to sit down with the protesters and have talks with them.

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Can someone show me how to find this? I can’t figure it out.

Also curious if it’s possible to see who is subscribed to a magazine or who is following me.