About 49,500 people took their own lives last year in the U.S., the highest number ever, according to new government data posted Thursday.

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      We’re men helping men over here.

      No, you’re posting online.

      Do you personally volunteer at a battered women’s shelter? Then you’re a male ally.

      Do you personally volunteer at a suicide hotline? Then you’re a man helping other men (when those men call in).

      Otherwise I suspect, admitting that I don’t know you, that you think that you’re on a team that’s the good guys, and that you’re the only game in town, and you’re threatened that I don’t expect feminism to be something that it can’t and shouldn’t be, no matter how much ideological gymnastics are performed to try and convince men that feminism is on their side.

      If you (or your ideology) profess a belief that you’re capable of being on everyone’s side you are grandiose and delusional. Help the people you can help, especially offline, but don’t be an ideological evangelist online because that isn’t meaningful participation in our society.

      Yes we should try and make a society by everyone, for everyone. Intersectional feminism teaches us that the way to do this is to listen to the people with the experience, not to listen to the ideology which you, @surewhynotlem, are centering.

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        What I do is speak with troubled anti-women men online to help them understand it’s not us vs them, it’s all of us vs the system.

        Don’t gatekeep assistance by setting an arbitrary bar. It’s unhelpful.

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          And what I do is speak with anti-women men online without trying to convert them to an ideology which is based around helping women.

          Don’t gatekeep assistance by setting an arbitrary bar. It’s unhelpful.

          fuck off? like do you understand how incoherent you are here? no, how could you, your entire ideology is based on the incoherent contradiction of feminism-for-women and feminism-for-everyone.

          This is weak.

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            You claim to want to help men but you insult weakness and drag down people trying to help? I’m sorry, but this undermines everything you’re trying to say. At this point I can’t even be sure you’re not simply a misogynist troll play acting as a leftist.

            If you truly care about helping people, consider that attacking other people trying to help is counterproductive. Also consider that your approach is clearly combative, and that anger is something you need to address.

            I’m not blocking you because I don’t know if you’ll see this if I do. But if you reply, I’ll know you have.

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      Listen to yourself.

      We’ve moved on from ‘man hating’ on the left.

      How dare you deprive women of the right to hate men for the shitty things that men do?

      Intersectional Feminism actually espouses the fact that men are also harmed by the patriarchy

      It’s not like it’s not a “well actually” just because you omitted the “well.”

      You absolutely can delegitimize the experience men have at the hands of feminism which is composed of humans who don’t always get it right. You can do it, with this “well actually,” but you’re performing an ideological dance for yourself to try and salvage a feminism that doesn’t need the help.

      Feminism kicks ass and tells women to fuck up men when they deserve it, omni-feminism is weak sauce like this.