• booty [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    9 months ago

    Do you realize how ridiculous you seem bringing up promises to do shit “by 2038” and “until 2045?” We needed to put an end to this shit by the year 2000. Your government won’t even have any of the same people in it in 2038. You think they’re going to give a shit what people said in 2024?

    You’re advocating for so little that it may as well be nothing. At least the full “i dont give a shit about the environment, let 'er rip” people are honest. You’re exactly the same, you just like to pretend you’re better.

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      9 months ago

      I do think that these issues need long term viable solutions. You can’t change the energy production infrastructure in five years. This takes time and you need a plan. Germany is currently one of eleven countries that have made the move to zero emission energy production a law. This is in itself quite an achievement. Of course there is no guarantee that it will be implemented exactly as it is planned now. I think it will be a big win if we can achieve climate neutrality in the energy sector by 2045 and phase out coal in fourteen years.

      https://climateactiontracker.org/global/cat-net-zero-target-evaluations/

      Please refrain from using ad hominem attacks and support your views with arguments rather than personal insults.

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        9 months ago

        Please refrain from using ad hominem attacks

        Can you point out what part of my comment you mistook for an ad hominem attack so I can laugh at you even harder? I already know you don’t know what ad hominem is, but seeing the specific example will be particularly funny.

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          You’re advocating for so little that it may as well be nothing. At least the full “i dont give a shit about the environment, let 'er rip” people are honest. You’re exactly the same, you just like to pretend you’re better.

          How is this not attacking my personality but continuing a discussion on a civil manner?

          Hers the definition from Britannica: “ad hominem, (Latin: “against the man”) type of argument or attack that appeals to prejudice or feelings or irrelevantly impugns another person’s character instead of addressing the facts or claims made by the latter.”

          https://www.britannica.com/topic/ad-hominem

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            How is this not attacking my personality but continuing a discussion on a civil manner?

            It’s a direct criticism of the argument you made. You are dishonestly bringing up plans to do in 2045 what should be done yesterday. You pretend to care about these issues but if you truly did care about these issues you would be utterly embarrassed by the ineffectiveness of what you’re supporting. You like the image of caring about the environment, but you have no interest in the actual solutions.

            appeals to prejudice ❌
            or feelings ❌
            irrelevantly impugns ❌
            instead of addressing the facts or claims ❌

            I’m impugning your character for claiming inaccurately and dishonestly that it is acceptable to baby step our way to 2045 when the world is already on fire.

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              You called me a liar. That’s clearly ad hominem.

              Now you state: “I’m impugning your character for claiming…”, “You pretend to care…”, “You have no interest in the…”. These are all personal attacks without any arguments based on credible sources.