• Stovetop@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    People did propose organizing a colored state in apartheid South Africa. More specifically, a white-colored state, which I suppose would inherently make the rest of South Africa the colored state.

    There are still white South Africans practicing segregation, with a two-state solution as their goal.

    I would have much preferred a one-state solution in Israel with equal rights granted to every Palestinian, but with the way the conflict has developed at this point, I don’t think Israelis can peacefully coexist with Palestinians, the former of which have shown they cannot stop oppressing people and the latter of which are understandably out for vengeance.

    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
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      7 months ago

      So basically you’re saying Israelis are too racist to live in peace with Palestinians?

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        7 months ago

        I would say probably. Not that the average Israeli actively demands the deaths of Palestinians, but that I don’t see a scenario anymore where the majority of Israelis would be willing to acknowledge the Palestinians as equals.

          • Maalus@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            And I take it you speak as a person living in both communities with deep ties to both, and not as a random American that couldn’t place Gaza on the map a year ago?

            • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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              7 months ago

              I lived in Haifa for two years. I can speak more than 99% of Lemmy on this topic. But you don’t need to live there to know that the PLO has put a Fatwa on every Jew killed. The stance of Palestinians on this is all public knowledge. It’s not like it’s some big secret.

      • febra@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        Yes. They are. Anyone who’s ever been to Israel will be able to confirm this.

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      7 months ago

      It would be so interesting to know what would have happened if south africa got divided like that.