My post on there was something along the lines of “People who meme mental illnesses are just making a clownshow out of mental illnesses”. I felt it was unpopular because people commonly share lots of memes about mental illnesses and life struggles that I particularly don’t find amusing. Comics are a bit different because comics usually depict the struggles in a more artistic form so it’s more broad and can be more understood and relatable. Memes, I don’t think so.
But it got removed because it wasn’t “unpopular” enough.
I responded to the mods by picking 5 of the most top posts of their subreddit that depicted people trashing certain fandoms for being popular, your typical “X popular artist is overrated” and other low-hanging fruit. That’s what lead to the ban. They never like it when someone comes in with the real opinions, they’re too high on their little statistics. Quantity over quality.
Well, I was known for being fast on the ban. I don’t fucking play. But I wouldn’t have banned you for that.
I would have told you to stfu and take the removal because it doesn’t matter what someone else does, it matters what you do. Each post gets handled at the time it comes, and that’s how it goes. Trying to swing dick like you did isn’t cool
But yeah, way over the line to ban for that. At most a 24 hour ban to give you time to cool off after being told to stfu lol
I don’t think that required a ban, but they are right in saying “we can’t see everything” when they say that just showing posts that made it to the top that meet your criteria doesn’t mean your post shouldn’t have been deleted.
It’d be easy to ruin a subreddit’s goals by just overwhelming the mods with rule-breaking content until it’s impossible to remove all of it, because then you’d be bound to have at least one example where rules were broken but post is popular.
I mean, I’d argue depending on your audience, “People who meme mental illnesses are just making a clownshow out of mental illnesses” is probably a very popular opinion. like you’d have to go to 4ch probably to get really angry crowds.
If the mods admit that they would have removed the posts had they seen them (implied by the “we can’t see everything” response) - yet they’re not open to being alerted to problem posts (implied by the “checkmate” sass) - how can they fairly expect users not to be frustrated by the unequal application of the rules?
The correct mod response here would have been “we understand you disagree, but we don’t feel the posts you linked violate the rules” or “you’re right, we missed those too,” not “we didn’t see those but also we’re banning you for telling us about them.”
They breed the hostile environment they complain so much about, and the cycle continues.
That’s what I mean by not being open to being alerted to problem posts. For many subs, there are too many reports to sort through, and the mods welcome modmail to point out something that has slipped under the radar. This sub doesn’t allow that, so they won’t be able to work with their subs’ members for a fairer application of the rules.
In a way, they can’t see everything but I imagine thousands of posts are coming in every hour. Of course they can’t see everything, which is why they’ve implemented automoderation and bot assistance.
However, I don’t doubt that they haven’t at least have had a few glances at the front page of their subreddit to maybe think that their concept of ‘unpopular’ isn’t what’s practiced.
A rule that permits a moderator to remove something because its “not unpopular enough” is not a rule. Its a suggestion. And while this is certainly one way of approaching moderation, this style does tend to create a lot of discontent in users.
At the end of the day, Reddit moderators are unpaid volunteers. When the standards for Reddit moderation are : have no job, no life, be willing to wade through literal online garbage 24/7, and do it unpaid, you’re going to get exactly what Reddit has. Terrible moderators that go on power trips constantly because of tantrums, and a very very tiny fraction of people who do not value themselves enough.
Backstory:
My post on there was something along the lines of “People who meme mental illnesses are just making a clownshow out of mental illnesses”. I felt it was unpopular because people commonly share lots of memes about mental illnesses and life struggles that I particularly don’t find amusing. Comics are a bit different because comics usually depict the struggles in a more artistic form so it’s more broad and can be more understood and relatable. Memes, I don’t think so.
But it got removed because it wasn’t “unpopular” enough.
I responded to the mods by picking 5 of the most top posts of their subreddit that depicted people trashing certain fandoms for being popular, your typical “X popular artist is overrated” and other low-hanging fruit. That’s what lead to the ban. They never like it when someone comes in with the real opinions, they’re too high on their little statistics. Quantity over quality.
Well, I was known for being fast on the ban. I don’t fucking play. But I wouldn’t have banned you for that.
I would have told you to stfu and take the removal because it doesn’t matter what someone else does, it matters what you do. Each post gets handled at the time it comes, and that’s how it goes. Trying to swing dick like you did isn’t cool
But yeah, way over the line to ban for that. At most a 24 hour ban to give you time to cool off after being told to stfu lol
I don’t think that required a ban, but they are right in saying “we can’t see everything” when they say that just showing posts that made it to the top that meet your criteria doesn’t mean your post shouldn’t have been deleted.
It’d be easy to ruin a subreddit’s goals by just overwhelming the mods with rule-breaking content until it’s impossible to remove all of it, because then you’d be bound to have at least one example where rules were broken but post is popular.
I mean, I’d argue depending on your audience, “People who meme mental illnesses are just making a clownshow out of mental illnesses” is probably a very popular opinion. like you’d have to go to 4ch probably to get really angry crowds.
If the mods admit that they would have removed the posts had they seen them (implied by the “we can’t see everything” response) - yet they’re not open to being alerted to problem posts (implied by the “checkmate” sass) - how can they fairly expect users not to be frustrated by the unequal application of the rules?
The correct mod response here would have been “we understand you disagree, but we don’t feel the posts you linked violate the rules” or “you’re right, we missed those too,” not “we didn’t see those but also we’re banning you for telling us about them.”
They breed the hostile environment they complain so much about, and the cycle continues.
This is not the case, not they say “report and move on”. Reporting is literally alerting them to the problem post.
That’s what I mean by not being open to being alerted to problem posts. For many subs, there are too many reports to sort through, and the mods welcome modmail to point out something that has slipped under the radar. This sub doesn’t allow that, so they won’t be able to work with their subs’ members for a fairer application of the rules.
In a way, they can’t see everything but I imagine thousands of posts are coming in every hour. Of course they can’t see everything, which is why they’ve implemented automoderation and bot assistance.
However, I don’t doubt that they haven’t at least have had a few glances at the front page of their subreddit to maybe think that their concept of ‘unpopular’ isn’t what’s practiced.
A rule that permits a moderator to remove something because its “not unpopular enough” is not a rule. Its a suggestion. And while this is certainly one way of approaching moderation, this style does tend to create a lot of discontent in users.
At the end of the day, Reddit moderators are unpaid volunteers. When the standards for Reddit moderation are : have no job, no life, be willing to wade through literal online garbage 24/7, and do it unpaid, you’re going to get exactly what Reddit has. Terrible moderators that go on power trips constantly because of tantrums, and a very very tiny fraction of people who do not value themselves enough.