cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/10958052

Vanguard, the controversial anti-cheat software initially attached to Valorant, is now also coming to League of Legends.

Summary:

The article discusses Riot Games’ requirement for players to install their Vanguard anti-cheat software, which runs at the kernel level, in order to play their games such as League of Legends and Valorant. The software aims to combat cheating by scanning for known vulnerabilities and blocking them, as well as monitoring for suspicious activity while the game is being played. However, the use of kernel-level software raises concerns about privacy and security, as it grants the company complete access to users’ devices.

The article highlights that Riot Games is owned by Tencent, a Chinese tech giant that has been involved in censorship and surveillance activities in China. This raises concerns that Vanguard could potentially be used for similar purposes, such as monitoring players’ activity and restricting free speech in-game.

Ultimately, the decision to install Vanguard rests with players, but the article urges caution and encourages players to consider the potential risks and implications before doing so.

  • Prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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    10 months ago

    It’s the other way around: no game is worth sacrificing security and privacy by giving it kernel level access.

    The argument is: more and more games are running on Linux and there’s a damn good reason not to play the ones that don’t at all.

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      That’s a great argument for the extremely small percentage of gamers who give a damn about that, but just about all of them are already on linux, so if that’s the way forward for linux gaming, congrats it’s at full saturation. This site is wild. Downvotes for pointing out thay not running games thay millions play a day is bad for gaming on the OS. I may as well be talking to Republicans about Biden. You’re zealots.

      Go on the legaue and valorant forums see how many of the millions you can convince that Linux security is more important than being able to play with their friends.

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          10 months ago

          Lol bold opinion on this site when people are already responding that its good for Linux gaming that it won’t play games that has intrusive anticheat. I’ll admit sure it’s better for security, but to think that’s a good thing for gaming on Linux is hilarious.

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            No, it’s obviously better to have the choice (run the game or not). And losing a game that previously worked on Linux is obviously a bad thing, hence the joke about it being good.

            Of course you could argue that taking a stance against this kind of intrusive anticheat is good in the long run. If Microsoft had a backbone they’d do the same.

            But yeah losing games because of anticheat is obviously a bad thing lol. No need to take it so seriously.

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              The comment was about valorant, did that one ever work on Linux, if so I wasn’t aware that they figured it out. Didnt seem like a joke, and people are unironocally agreeing with it soooo

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                there was a way to play Valorant via qemu and GPU passthrough. But that was long “fixed”. Now they are pushing Vanguard onto League as well.

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        10 months ago

        I don’t give a shit if a billion people suddenly decide that shooting their own brains is a great idea, shooting yourself is still a bad idea.

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        Just so you understand, you aren’t downvoted because you have a different opinion. You are downvoted because the conversation is basically this:

        Post: Company does evil and shit things!

        You: Well the majority lets them so I will too and so should you.

        Others: We should not let company do evil.

        You: Haha but majority lets them so I will too and you should too!

        See how stupid it is?

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          Im literally just asking for people to not act like that’s a good thing. Also your example is exactly how ALL companies work, tell me do you avoid every product Nestle makes? If by some miracle you do, there’s at least a dozen other mega companies I imagine you can’t. I don’t understand how you call that stupid considering I’d wager a lot of money you participate in systems EXACTLY like that.

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            tell me do you avoid every product Nestle makes?

            Yes, actually. If you don’t buy processed foods it’s very easy.

            there’s at least a dozen other mega companies I imagine you can’t.

            Try me.

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        10 months ago

        So, requiring to puncture the security and privacy of your PC for a game is ok, as long as millions of players are affected. Did I understand you correctly, here?

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          The same people would let Sony install a rootkit so they can listen to music on their PC.

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          Nowhere did I say that, what I said is most gamers do not care. So what I’m implying is if you want Linux desktop OS to overtake the next highest competitor (which is ‘OS unknown’ btw) you’re going to need to do better. For at least the past 20 years gaming has been a social phenomena more than anything else, and not being able to play games that millions play daily isn’t a brag for linux gaming just because you’re more secure than they are. Unknown OS is ahead of linux on desktop share, not just gaming desktop, all desktop. Linux ranks just below a statistical anomaly and just above chrome os. If that’s fine with you than fine, but if you’re one of the people for whom gaming is a very social thing, then you’re probably never moving to linux at this rate, or at least hope things get better. But apparently I’m the only one unsatisfied with what gaming on linux looks like, and everyone else loves it as is. Welp, if that’s how it is and this is what linux gaming is supposed to be, then it’s defiantly not for me either.