• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Any Canadians want to let me know if this is beneficial and Trudeau is doing better with Native people?

    I know the last couple years there’s been a bunch of criticism towards him. And my favorite Native Canadian rap group certainly aren’t fans of his.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUG8oEuCl0E

    Just curious if he’s doing better these days.

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      10 months ago

      Trudeau certainly says a lot of great things and makes nice promises, but his follow through is pretty hit and miss. He promised to implement the 94 actions recommended by the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, but then actively fought one of its recommendations in court: Paying out $23 billion in restitution to families impacted by discriminatory child welfare practices.

      His government has reworked the legal frameworks for the interaction between First Nations and Canadian governments, but this report says it’s a lot of changes leading to more or less the same outcome. First Nations are still not “independent” and Canadian governments can still intervene in decisions they make.

      He has also greenlit a bunch of oil pipeline expansions through indigenous lands that not only upset indigenous peoples but also climate activists.

      So yeah, he’s a politician. He says a lot of great stuff about helping people and then does what every other politician does and focuses on the economy.

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        10 months ago

        First nations cannot be entirely independent, some may be able to but most would not while being stuck in the current geographical situation. Unless they were given complete control over territory 10-100x or more than what they currently have, which absolutely will not happen for every first nation. It’s a situation where there is no good solution that keeps everyone happy, and will likely remain this way until Canada collapses as a country.

        Best we can hope for is clean water, healthcare, warm housing and food security.

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      10 months ago

      He is so universally disliked in Canada, it’s kind of wild he hasn’t stepped down by now

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        10 months ago

        Nobody should be a fan of any politician. They are servants after all. But to say that he is universally disliked is more indicative of your own little bubble than it is of reality.

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          10 months ago

          I don’t think the comment you’re replying to is particularly off-base. Coming from a centre-left perspective, this government has been essentially inactive on so many issues that are negatively impacting Canadians, whether it be housing (pre-emptive frig off to the inevitable comments parroting the "provincial responsibility pablum), grocery prices, etc. I don’t know anyone who thinks this term has been a success, and at this point even a substantial chunk of the Liberal caucus is concerned about going into the election with Trudeau at the helm.

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            10 months ago

            For what it is worth - I didn’t downvote that comment. I just find it funny when someone says something like ‘universally disliked’ and felt inclined to remind other readers that ‘universally’ is not as universal as @rab may think.

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              10 months ago

              So do you personally know people who still support Trudeau?

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                10 months ago

                Yes. Of course.

                You can find supporters for any politician. I mean… Someone keeps sending Pierre money. There is no end to political dumbfuckery.

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                  10 months ago

                  Do you live in Ontario though?

                  I live in BC, I have friends all across the political spectrum. Most of my friends including myself voted him in in the first place. The only thing Trudeau cares about in BC is his Tofino vacation home and everyone knows it.

                  Pierre is only getting support because people are at the stage of “anyone but Trudeau”, and he’s sadly going to win because that’s how angry voters are right now

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          10 months ago

          Maybe I should have mentioned his atrocious approval ratings, almost the lowest of any PM in history

          But yeah as for my “little bubble” I literally don’t know a single person who supports the guy, we are completely fed up with him. That said I live in western Canada. Eastern Canada will still vote for him, they are kinda fucked up over there though.

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            10 months ago

            Lol at “universally disliked” and “Eastern Canada will vote for him” I mean it’s only 63% of the population, practically zero people.

            Yes I know that not everyone in Eastern Canada will vote for him I’m just saying that you should be more consistent.

            Even if only %34 percent of Eastern Canada voted for him that’s still over %20 of the country.

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              10 months ago

              Yeah admittedly it’s easy to forget about eastern Canada as someone who’s only lived in BC and AB. It’s a totally different world over there

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                10 months ago

                It’s a totally different world over there

                It really isn’t.

                A lot of isolationists in AB/SK and to an extent BC want you to believe that. But having lived in almost every province, a few states, and three euro countries… I can safely say that most of the world is just trying to get by without hurting each other. You are just as likely to get help boosting your car in Gatineau as you would in Calgary or Kelowna. We are all just people. Drawing lines in the sand is a game for politicians, the media, and the rich. Don’t fall for it.