• Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    lack of proof is not the same thing as being disproven at all.

    Yes it is, lack of proof makes the claim baseless, the default for a baseless claim is to consider it false. Ergo the result is the same as if it actually was disproved.

    But that’s not the problem here, you are reversing the burden of proof. The burden of proof is always with the one who has the claim. If he is not able to describe a process where the results can be replicated, it will ultimately after enough trials, be considered a false claim.

    There is nothing in that process about actively disproving the claim.

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      1 year ago

      the default for a baseless claim is to consider it false

      This is not correct.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

      One way in which one would attempt to shift the burden of proof is by committing a logical fallacy known as the argument from ignorance. It occurs when either a proposition is assumed to be true because it has not yet been proven false or a proposition is assumed to be false because it has not yet been proven true.

      You are committing this logical fallacy.

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        1 year ago

        what may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence

        That’s the same as considering a baseless claim false because it has no evidence.

        You are committing this logical fallacy.

        No you are making the mistake of comparing a “proposition” with a scientific claim that has been examined. Also you are making the mistake of using semantics to discard the scientific method. What you are arguing would in science be the same as claiming a hypothesis false without examination. That would be an argument from ignorance.

        Not all claims are equal, there’s a difference between a scientific claim and saying I had cereal for breakfast. Questioning an everyday personal experience is very different from questioning a scientific claim without evidence.