What is lemmy.world doing defederating before hexbear even federates? lemmy.world/instances
This is what it took to defederate from exploding-heads after being federated with them since the start of lemmy.world
https://lemmy.world/post/747912?scrollToComments=true
What evidence do you have of hexbear breaking the lemmy or citizen code of conduct?
Has the criteria for defederation changed?
Hexbear is one of the largest and most active lemmy instances:
Compared to lemmy.ml:
Compared to lemm.ee:
and lemmy.world:
The Hexbear thread on federation: https://www.hexbear.net/post/280770 – read it yourself.
To me it reads like a plan to increase their reach with preventive instructions on how to avoid being ‘influenced’ by outsiders’ opinions.
My guesstimation is that it is a disinformation machine based on useful idiots.
Hexbear has existed on lemmy for 3 years. It’s just a socialist instance, originally it was /r/chapotraphouse on reddit until Spez banned it for its userbase saying things like “slaveowners should be killed” (because he is a prepper who has said he will own slaves after the collapse).
Chapotraphouse is a socialist podcast, it was also the #1 highest donated thing on Patreon for a good while. These days it’s #2.
Who the hell wants to own, manage and be responsible for a human? Hell I can barely manage looking after a cat!
I don’t imagine they intend to do so responsibly
Just ask a parent.
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These days I’m not sure how much they’ve dropped off in popularity or not. A lot of people recommend /r/TrueAnon or /r/TheDeprogram, I hear CitationsNeeded mentioned quite often as well. If you’re looking for more leftist pods with varying styles/seriousness. Pretty much all of them crossover with Hexbear and the former userbase of the CTH sub.
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This was after it was banned from reddit?
Hexbear? Yes after the ban a lifeboat discord was set up, then a week or so later the site Chapo.Chat was born after rushed dev work. It later rebranded to Hexbear because various socialist groups didn’t want to work with a site associated with the chapo podcast for a variety of minor mostly unimportant reasons, things like believing they’re grifters just seeking money or w/e.
Yeah, this shithole should be defederated for sure.
From reading that thread it is not just a socialist instance.
They are instructing their members on how to relate to others, how to react to outsiders comments in their communities, and how to protect themselves from outsiders opinions. To me that sounds like cult level brainwashing techniques.
Another word that comes to mind is brigading.
No they’re not lmao.
It’s literally just “be nice to people when visiting other instances, don’t behave like a dirtbag leftist unless you’re actually on Hexbear”. Because the culture of Hexbear is… Dirtbag left. Making sure that the userbase doesn’t behave that way off Hexbear is pretty important. Hexbear users are lovely most of the time but get vicious with each other and are prone to extremely hostile fighting over topics they disagree on, this would be a massive shock to most normal people off-Hexbear. They’re just trying to mitigate that.
Doing this will cause people to think that folks on Hexbear aren’t evil tankies. And that’s exactly how they get you. They act like normal, rational, mature adults with generally friendly fun-loving attitudes and… that’s fucking it, man. Game over. The Putinistas will have won.
Yeah makes me remember that Nazi bar history.
Please don’t give the libs new words.
Too late, I’m putting that in my back pocket to disseminate at the monthly gathering.
Chapo Traphouse listeners aren’t tankies. Sure, Lemmygrad users are. But we’re fans of Bernie Sanders and not fans of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc. I considered creating an account there when I learned that it was full of former r/chapotraphouse users, but opted for my nerdy side when choosing my instance as that’s been a part of me longer than my political side.
Edit to add that hexbear appears to be offline so I can’t access the above link for context. If something is published there that goes against my post, it’s because I couldn’t verify what that link contained.
Thanks for offering your perspective. Maybe I’m too cynical. Or maybe I’m reading to much into the Russia-Ukraine-Nato thing.
In any case, at current information, I can both accept the defederation, or just teaching people that they can choose and block specific users and communities.
ok then block their news, politics communities problem solved hopefully we can get an answer from the admins soon. I’m fine if they want to use the admin power to decide who the lemmy.world users can talk to the only thing that can stop woke instances is strong and decisive leadership.
Lmao what? They are telling their users to be nice to others and not break the rules of other instances
Maybe I’m misunderstanding all the Russia-Ukraine-NATO section.
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Please,
Is not
You are not being consistent.
Also, an admin detailing how to think about a complex geopolitical situation is not discussing.
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I show you the picture of the statement:
They are too scared to show the power of the lemmy.world and to stop the federation with woke, i hope they would say how the western globalist agenda is a blight upon the worker, but sadly hexbear are woke tankies like lemmygrad and lemmy
Calling capitalism bad is not the same as supporting dictators. If you still worship capitalism, fine. But a lot of people who will never be able to afford a house are looking at previous generations vs what their generation is getting out of it and waking up to how badly they’ve been fucked.
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do you want hexbear users to flood .world threads with pig poop balls? that’s what the thread is saying not to do lol
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When the US annexed Hawai’i?
If haven’t looked at hexbear but I do remember seeing Chapo Trap House on Reddit. It was basically a liberal shitposting sub, a left wing, self-aware version of The Donald. I think it got banned due to too many memes involving guillotines. Most of that stuff was intended as humor, I am pretty sure.
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all wokeism is a cult
OH NO, WOKE?!
Stay asleep then, bud.
People who cry about wokeism being a cult will unironically attend weekly gathering in which they chant after a robbed figure and pretend to eat zombie flesh. The lack of self awareness is astounding.
You should read up what woke is historically, so maybe you don’t have to believe the “new bad woke” the far right trumpets all over the place.
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tankies = wokeism to the final consideration of the ideology
@communitylinkfixer@lemmings.world translate link for my app pls?
They’re not federated yet, you just gotta open it in your browser.
I’ve read this post and all the comments. It is clear their intention is too cause as much trouble as possible for other instances. What purpose does it serve to let them do it until everyone gets tired of it and then defederate? Might as well get ahead of it and never start.
yeah i did read it, literally the admin is telling the users to follow instance and community rules. Woke twists the reality into whatever the tankie wants it to be so blocking lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml is what lemmy.world should do if it wants to block these disinformation machines.
Thanks for the answer but I can only understand your first sentence. After that I have no clue about what you mean .
They use “woke” unironically, so it’s not like they had anything meaningful to say in the first place.
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