- cross-posted to:
- ukraine@sopuli.xyz
- cross-posted to:
- ukraine@sopuli.xyz
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Maybe they had poisoned inseams?
No, they just need money and Ukraine is completely fucked economically right now. Also Ukrainian government is still cooperating with Russia in many ways. For example, Russian gas still flows through pipes in Ukraine, Russia still pays money for transit and Ukraine is happy about it.
I see a lot of text but no links
https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/03/30/why-russian-oil-and-gas-is-still-flowing-through-ukraine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Ukraine
It took me less than a minute. I don’t know about Ukraine’s happiness, I suppose someone else could look that up.
Thanks for the links. The Economist is a paywall, but the wiki’s always a good read.
This article from Columbia is a good read as well (and no paywall). It brings up a good point that the volumes are down to “around a third of their pre-war levels.” Which makes more sense than how the OP was presenting things. No way you’ll simply halt that kind of economic relationship so quickly. But they go on to say that transit flows are still very much at risk.
I guess I’m just trying to point out that Ukraine is very much at war, but both belligerents depend on each other economically, which certainly defies expectations, as they say.
Thanks. Sorry for paywall, the article was readable linked from a search as is often the way. Archive.today will open it.
The economic codependency is surprising to some but logical I suppose.
A link is just pointing at someone else saying it. What makes someone else a better source?
Their journalistic integrity. You are no one, therefore your word carries no weight. Link sources, or don’t expect people to believe you.
Oh boy, calling someone a nobody and whining about integrity in the same breath! Literally everyone is just somebody. Believe them based on evidence rather than your simple minded stylistic impressions. Putting on a lab coat doesn’t add any more credibility than putting on a bath robe.
I’m not going to say you’re wrong.
But believing something is true just because you read it from some random commenter on the internet isn’t really smart.
It’s smart to ask them where they’re getting their information.
Naw, I’m more interested in the how.
When it comes to believing, I don’t believe in it.
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What makes someone else a better source?
They have a history of adhering to facts, so they’ve built up a good reputation.
You can look them up on mediabiasfactcheck.com and other independent fact checkers like Snopes to see how much of a reliable source they are.
Oh boy here we go.
The best lies have truths sprinkled around them.
Snopes got snoped. Snopes is actually terrible. I’m surprised to see their old reputation is still holding out with some people.
Nobody is a good source. Material needs to stand on it’s own. Everyone has a camera, but only well established sources have high quality photo manipulation.
The best lies have truths sprinkled around them.
Lies as in deception and not human error? If I’m reading that right, it sounds like there may be some trust issues on your part but I’ll let you elaborate.
Snopes got snoped. Snopes is actually terrible.
Did they? By who? Can you… *ahem*… provide a link? Because that at face value sounds like you’re poisoning the well. You keep casting wide generalizations without backing them up. Sure, I could look it up, but I want your sources specifically for various reasons.
And I’m just gonna say that of course every source has a degree of accuracy to them because the world isn’t black and white, which is the reason why reliability is a spectrum.
Nobody is a good source.
I’m sorry but it’s screaming trust issues again but harder.
Material needs to stand on it’s own.
Can you elaborate? Because I’m also getting weird vibes from this one.
only well established sources have high quality photo manipulation
This is simply not true, not in the world of AI and not in the world of Photoshop. If you can’t convincingly manipulate a photo using free tools and/or pirated software, then it’s a skill issue. See here for more details.
Why do you think I should just trust? I can’t go more than a few seconds in a day without someone trying to sell me some bullshit. I don’t have a trust issue. I have a distrust feature.
You want me to give you my exact source where I learned this information years ago? Why would I bother cataloging that shit? I can’t even keep the world from stealing everything I’ve ever worked for. Do you think I’m just gonna look it up on the spot to appease your little act when my whole point is to figure shit out myself?
Well established sources can hire skill with all their money they make with sensationalized nonsense. I can’t just pick that shit up. I gotta spend 8 hours a day making the land owners some money and after that I’m fond of enjoying myself.
It’s all a really weird theatre isn’t it? This geopolitical stuff.
Perhaps Ukraine should advance alongside the pipeline, which Russian troops dare not shell.
It may surprise you but inter nation deals during war are not at all uncommon. While we were bombing Berlin we were also selling them shit they needed and couldn’t get without us in exchange for shit we needed and couldn’t get without them.
Capitalism gunna capitalize.
Why would that surprise him? He literally explained that’s what’s happening.
You as in the reader not you as in the commentor who I think understood the meaning hence the lack of response.
Who cares. It’s not a military or major economic impact.
