Italy's cabinet proposed a ban on technocrat-led governments as part of a constitutional reform to directly elect the head of government, the prime minister said on Friday calling the plan "the mother of all reforms".
I never thought that these fascists would hollow out the democracy so quickly.
Automatically 55% in parliament for the party with the most votes, regardless of the share on total votes
That’s a huge hit on democracy
That’s not the issue many people have.
The issue is that the party with the highest percentage share automatically gets 55% of the seats in parliament even when it only got e.g. 18% of all votes.
Under the proposal, the prime minister would be elected for a period of five years and the coalition supporting the winning candidate will be given at least 55% of seats
In the context of the Italian political system, that would mean that whoever gets a relative majority - as low as it may be - forms a powerful government that cannot be removed from power for the whole of the term, during which it can do as it pleases as opposition is functionally useless.
Now that may not be a dictionary definition of fascism, but surely it’s a shiv in the neck of democracy and a pretty big step towards dictatorship.
The good thing is that it requires citizens to vote for it in a referendum.
The bad thing is that all it requires is to swindle people, which seems to be pretty easy nowadays considering that all referendums in Italy have had the worst possible result for the last 20 years or so.
This is essentially how it works in France… And it’s bad.
The president gets elected with 20% of the votes and then he has a majority in the parliament (relative majority for this term) but it means the parliament is useless. Look up article 49.3 of the constitution and its uses by the current prime minister.
Fascism and democracy are on a spectrum, and we definitely aren’t as close to democracy as I would like.
Depending on where you draw the line on the spectrum you can consider France is fascist, or in a pre-fascist state.
The executive is very powerful, to the point that the minister of justice is currently undergoing trial, and keeps his position. Of course he is judged by a literal two speed justice system, by a special court reserved for members of the executive branch.
Is it, though? Fascism often fixates on the strong leader who is going to fix everything. Electing someone and giving them and their party almost all possible power in you legislative system goes a long way in that direction.
I never thought that these fascists would hollow out the democracy so quickly. Automatically 55% in parliament for the party with the most votes, regardless of the share on total votes That’s a huge hit on democracy
Then again,
this is the opposite of fascism.
That’s not the issue many people have. The issue is that the party with the highest percentage share automatically gets 55% of the seats in parliament even when it only got e.g. 18% of all votes.
Got it, thank you.
In the context of the Italian political system, that would mean that whoever gets a relative majority - as low as it may be - forms a powerful government that cannot be removed from power for the whole of the term, during which it can do as it pleases as opposition is functionally useless.
Now that may not be a dictionary definition of fascism, but surely it’s a shiv in the neck of democracy and a pretty big step towards dictatorship.
The good thing is that it requires citizens to vote for it in a referendum.
The bad thing is that all it requires is to swindle people, which seems to be pretty easy nowadays considering that all referendums in Italy have had the worst possible result for the last 20 years or so.
This is essentially how it works in France… And it’s bad. The president gets elected with 20% of the votes and then he has a majority in the parliament (relative majority for this term) but it means the parliament is useless. Look up article 49.3 of the constitution and its uses by the current prime minister.
So, France is fascist?
Fascism and democracy are on a spectrum, and we definitely aren’t as close to democracy as I would like.
Depending on where you draw the line on the spectrum you can consider France is fascist, or in a pre-fascist state.
The executive is very powerful, to the point that the minister of justice is currently undergoing trial, and keeps his position. Of course he is judged by a literal two speed justice system, by a special court reserved for members of the executive branch.
Is it, though? Fascism often fixates on the strong leader who is going to fix everything. Electing someone and giving them and their party almost all possible power in you legislative system goes a long way in that direction.