• Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social
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      1 year ago

      So the only way to get anything done is to do it against the will of at least some people? You’ve never been in a group where you agreed on a course of action together?

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        In a group… you mean a very limited setting where you can discuss directly with everyone and get direct feedback in real time from everyone?

        How do you suggest that this might work on a large scale, with millions of people?

        Edit: And if for example 10 million people somehow found consensus and then one guy is like “lmao no”, everything gets canned?

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          There’s lots of ideas about this, but my solution is to simply eliminate the idea that we need to rule millions of people.

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            So some form of tribalism? And what if you generally like living in your consensus community but one thing rubs you wrong and you’re against it? You just leave and look for a community where you agree with everything 100% all the time? Good luck with that.

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              What would you do if your roommate wouldn’t help with the housework? Or had some quirk you didn’t like? Would you just leave or would you try to work it out?

              One thing this thread has taught me is a lot more people than I think can’t conceive of alternatives to the shitty system we have. Churchill said it’s the best so we’re not gonna change it, right?

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                No, you are not elaborating on your better alternatives. We KNOW that democracy is nort perfect. We are just looking for a solution that is doable in todays world. So now you come in and claim to somehow have a better way to do it. But when questioned, your answers are very vague, we have to pull all the info out of your nose. This tells me you probably don’t have any better solutions or just some vague idea of one and no real world application for it.

                Of course I would try to work it out. But you just assume this always happens, but what if it DOESN’T?

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                  I’m sorry I didn’t have a full treatise on the implementation of anarchism in a modern society prepared for you. I forgot the Internet is Very Serious Business™ and I get paid for educating people on it, not my actual job.

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                    If you want Anarchism, just say so instead of using vague answers?

                    And the thing with “Educate yourself” is so fucking lazy and a dumbass argument if you claim to have the answer?