• rdri@lemmy.world
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    Most gazans have been restricted to the gaza strip under a blockade for as long as they can remember.

    Is it so bad to be able to live on the land you were born at? Or do you go “I can’t be a tourist so I have to kill Israeli”?

    They’ve been unable to import certain foods and materials for their entire lives (even pasta wasn’t allowed until more recently).

    “If I can’t eat certain food it’s justified to kill Israeli”?

    Sometimes, hamas or pij launches a few rockets, and maybe they kill or injure a few people if any.

    Thanks to Israel’s defenses.

    Israel responds by bombing the shit out of Gaza, destroying homes and killing families.

    Thanks to hamas launching rockets from civillians objects. And thanks to Gaza’s (absense of) defenses. Go on, blame Israel for the fact that certain people build rockets and launch them from certain places, instead of building defenses.

    When they try to peacefully protest, hundreds of them, including children medics and journalists, are killed by snipers, and tens of thousands are injured.

    Those “peaceful protests” more than likely included people using slingshots. Do not fuck with an army, especially if it’s an army of a different country.

    “58% of Gaza Strip residents required humanitarian assistance with 29% of Gazan households living in extreme or catastrophic conditions, the top two tiers of severity, against 10% in 2022.”

    It almost looks like they could spend those humanitarian funds on improving their households. But not after they use enough to build tons of rockets, naturally.

    In the west bank, Palestinians are forced out of their homes.

    How does this work? There was a house where you lived, then someone comes and tells you “this is no longer your house”? Or “even if we never created a proper country, we always thought these were out territories, and then someone came and developed stuff of them, and we got sad and angry”?

    They aren’t allowed to use certain roads.

    Roads that are crucial to be able to live properly? I don’t suggest to stay still while you get restricted. But you gotta think what can be done about it, instead of doing terrorism. Especially when the world shows signs of caring about you. For many years too.

    If I was in those conditions, and my friends or family were killed by settlers or an airstrike, I would probably want to join hamas/pij/PFLP too.

    You would probably want to join people who practice launching missiles from other families’ places so they get killed, and do the same. That’s not smart.

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      1 year ago

      I can’t take you seriously when ur defending apartheid and settler colonialism like that. Disgusting.

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          Yes, I don’t think terrorism is always bad. Would you condemn the ANC, the Native Americans, the Viet Cong, Nat Turner, and the Algerians for doing what they had to do to fight oppression?

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            Did any of them ever win their fight?

            Seriously, what do you propose? Israel doesn’t want to spend resources on war. Hamas doesn’t want to spend resources on anything but war. Israel will not liv

            And you still didn’t explain exactly what’s happening to Palestinians that would suggest their choices are justified. Maybe if they’d be forced to live near an active volcano or something I’d consider stuff. But as it is now, they are being thrown to get killed, by hamas and not anyone else.

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              The native Americans and nat turner lost, the Viet Cong, the ANC, and the algerians won.

              I did explain what conditions justified revolutionary violence and you said apartheid is ok actually. If you aren’t willing to listen, I’m just gonna stop responding.