Fuck the tankies that garggled on Hamas balls on this one. Complete mask off moment. Especially when the evidence was so clear that it wasn’t Israel within 4 hours of the report. Absolute embarassment from “progressives.”
honestly this comment gives me the same feel as the tankies. There was certainly enough that it was debatable but withing 4 hours it was not “so clear”. My issue was with anyone claiming some sort of slam dunk on one party in the short term.
Videos from multiple angles of the incident and reliably geolocated from people who have reliably done so for all of the Ukraine war. People who still accused Israel after day 1 really exposed themselves
all those videos while filmed within four hours were not available. First day I think I only saw one and it was days before more were taken into account. Point is suggesting folks on the internet can figure this out within four hours of the attack is rediculous. Especially when you are getting many more types of “evidence” from various sides. I myself wasted a few hours with a guy posting on israeli bomb types and such.
Grow up. That’s how breaking news works, especially in an area with masses of refugees and bombings. People can’t calmly investigate facts in Gaza right now. Rumors can get spun out of control. A better picture is only formed several days after an event. That’s just the nature of the news everywhere.
They could at least check if the hospital is still standing before claiming that Israel destroyed it. When your only source is Hamas, don’t treat it as truth.
Nah, tankies still claim the IDF did it. They don’t care about truth. If they saw something that isn’t “Israel bad America bad” they’d sooner rip out their eyes than admit they were wrong. Hell I’m arguing with a tankie right now that is saying those Israeli kids that died in the Hamas attack desevered it and that no Isreali is a civilian. They openly welcome genocide of people they dislike. They praise it and encourage it
Fuck the tankies that garggled on Hamas balls on this one. Complete mask off moment. Especially when the evidence was so clear that it wasn’t Israel within 4 hours of the report. Absolute embarassment from “progressives.”
honestly this comment gives me the same feel as the tankies. There was certainly enough that it was debatable but withing 4 hours it was not “so clear”. My issue was with anyone claiming some sort of slam dunk on one party in the short term.
It was very clear from the plethora of evidence available within actual hours of the incident. https://web.archive.org/web/20231018172925/https://twitter.com/GeoConfirmed/status/1714390274900734049
Videos from multiple angles of the incident and reliably geolocated from people who have reliably done so for all of the Ukraine war. People who still accused Israel after day 1 really exposed themselves
all those videos while filmed within four hours were not available. First day I think I only saw one and it was days before more were taken into account. Point is suggesting folks on the internet can figure this out within four hours of the attack is rediculous. Especially when you are getting many more types of “evidence” from various sides. I myself wasted a few hours with a guy posting on israeli bomb types and such.
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Okay but Obama with Spike Spiegel’s hair though.
Grow up. That’s how breaking news works, especially in an area with masses of refugees and bombings. People can’t calmly investigate facts in Gaza right now. Rumors can get spun out of control. A better picture is only formed several days after an event. That’s just the nature of the news everywhere.
They could at least check if the hospital is still standing before claiming that Israel destroyed it. When your only source is Hamas, don’t treat it as truth.
Nah, tankies still claim the IDF did it. They don’t care about truth. If they saw something that isn’t “Israel bad America bad” they’d sooner rip out their eyes than admit they were wrong. Hell I’m arguing with a tankie right now that is saying those Israeli kids that died in the Hamas attack desevered it and that no Isreali is a civilian. They openly welcome genocide of people they dislike. They praise it and encourage it