• randon31415@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 year ago

    Just ask yourself - if Iran did this to an Israeli city ‘in defense of the people of Gaza’, who would you be saying to fuck?

    • Shea@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’ve been saying fuck Israel for years. They’ve been tearing innocent families out of their homes to occupy their land for their entire existence. No fucking wonder they got radicalized and fight back. It’s the same story with the US and Iran man, they helped create all the terrorists that attack them.

      • randon31415@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Look at the pictures in the link. If that was an Israeli city hit by Iran, who would be at fault? Now they are actually of Gaza. Whose fault is it in reality? If you didn’t answer Israel to one of those two questions, then you hold that Israel can do no wrong.

        • rdri@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          If no one would’ve done terrorism on October 7th, no one would do anything like you see on a photo today. And, oh, how much more would you be upset if Israel would do attacks without a warning, just like hamas does, I can’t imagine.

          If you have balls to blame Israel for the existence of “kill all Jews” in Palestinians’ doctrine, you are out of your mind.

          • randon31415@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Group A is angry. It shoots missles and kills innocent civilians. Group B states “This will not stand! We must defeat group A and put an end to their killing of innocent civilians!” Group B then shoots missles, but instead of just killing group A, they kill a bunch more innocent civilians. On that last group of civilians, who is to blame for their death? In abstract it should be the ones shooting the missles.

            You might be tempted to say it was group A’s fault for shooting the first batch of missles, thinking I am referring to Hamas. That is why I made up the (hopefully) hypothetical scenario that group A is Israel and group B is Iran. All I want to get across is those that shoot missles and kill innocents REGARDLESS OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES are to blame for the death they cause.

            • rdri@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Group B is unrelated so the whole thing is unrelated.

              I’m not proposing to remove all blame from Israel. But its actions are within adequate frame, and it can be investigated and held accountable. This never applies to Palestinians, they won’t be prosecuted and will proceed with terrorism if not stopped.

              • randon31415@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Group B fired missles that killed innocent civilians in both scenarios. Proposing they are unrelated removed all blame from them.

                Also, when was the last time any resolution at the UN security council has passed and held Israel accountable? Seems like the whole region has avoided any formal accountability, both Hamas and Israel.

                • rdri@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Whatever the UN did wrong, it doesn’t mean Israel can be treated like terrorists.