The nuclear scientists were killed using a special weapon whose details were barred from publication, Channel 12 says.
The 10th nuclear scientist was killed shortly after the other nine, as part of the overnight Thursday-Friday Israeli operation, which included strikes on Iran’s ballistic missile program and the Natanz nuclear site, along with the elimination of top members of the Islamic Republic’s military leadership, the network says.
The nuclear scientists were all killed while they were sleeping in their beds, with Israel deciding to carry out the assassinations simultaneously so that there wouldn’t be time to tip off those being targeted.
The scientists apparently believed they were safe from such targeting in their homes, a senior Israeli official tells Channel 12, noting that previously assassinated nuclear scientists were killed while heading to their cars after work.
Israel had been tracking Iranian nuclear scientists for years and the ten killed last week were marked for assassination in November of last year, Channel 12 says.
Just when I feel like dystopian news can’t really disturb me anymore…
Leaving this totally unrelated article about Palantir and Israel here for absolutely no reason at all…
How Israel Uses AI in Gaza—And What It Might Mean for the Future of Warfare:
A program known as “The Gospel” generates suggestions for buildings and structures militants may be operating in. “Lavender” is programmed to identify suspected members of Hamas and other armed groups for assassination, from commanders all the way down to foot soldiers. “Where’s Daddy?” reportedly follows their movements by tracking their phones in order to target them—often to their homes, where their presence is regarded as confirmation of their identity. The air strike that follows might kill everyone in the target’s family, if not everyone in the apartment building.
Abraham, whose report relies on conversations with six Israeli intelligence officers with first-hand experience in Gaza operations after Oct. 7, quoted targeting officers as saying they found themselves deferring to the Lavender program, despite knowing that it produces incorrect targeting suggestions in roughly 10% of cases.
Murdered. Not killed, murdered.
Both technically true, but the way they write killed suggests it wasn’t murder in cold blood, an act of war against another country to bully and control them.
Murder.
10 assassinations of relatively innocent people simultaneously. Straight out of Walter white’s playbook when he went full villain.
They aren’t innocent, they are knowingly creating a devastating weapon of mass destruction for a regime who has declared that they intend to use it. While I don’t support this sort of unprovoked attack, I can’t get too worked up over the demise of literally mad scientists.
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I generally don’t believe Iran was on its way to building nuclear weapons, only nuclear energy. But, if we were to entertain for a moment the notion that they were, this is all pretty badass no?
But, since it’s not the case this whole thing is frightening. Israel is a terrorist state and I’m tired of pretending otherwise.
What is the endgame here? They certainly can’t be delusional enough to assume that killing civilians or bombing facilities will ingratiate them with the Iranian people to overthrow the government or even making the government surrender; how many more people will they radicalize through this process? How many more lives do they want to destroy? When will the middle east have peace?
Jesus they killed everyone in the apartment complex including their kids how is this not a war crime?!?
Under the rules of war, no. The rules of war does not consider civilians casualties a crime if they happen while targeting military or military support, like weapons manufacturing.
If it were, then you could just fire missiles at your enemies from the tops of apartment buildings and they couldn’t do anything about it. Yeah Hamas did do that and did make claims of war crimes whenever they got hit, but not actually a war crime. Because if it were it would encourage every military in the world to use human shields and every war becomes as horrible as the war in Gaza.
What did we say about based takes on Lemmy?
From my reading of the article, that was a hypothetical. Not to say it hasn’t happened multiple times but I’m pretty sure that “may” was doing some heavy lifting.
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Where did it say that? Are you creating outrage just for the sake of outrage? What’s the benefit?
Let me fix the headline - Israel commits more state sponsored terrorist attacks in neighbouring countries.
Surely this will work wonders, they’ll never recover from this. Also they won’t have any incentive, because why would you even consider building a bomb in such a friendly environment? Why would there need to be an axis of resistance, let them surrender unconditionally like Trump suggested, because clearly Israel and the US are to be trusted. If only these damned Iranians remained at the negotiating table while we bombed the shit out of them unprovoked. I guess they don’t want peace. /s
And don’t forget the US will again get to decide to arbitrarily discard any nuclear agreements, which is of course another great incentive for Iran to not start a military nuclear program.
The only difference between Israel and a terrorist organization is PR and budget.
And religion. Quite some Christians love Israel, no matter what, because the Bible. Yes, it’s a fantastic argument. And as long as the victims are muslims, they’ll support Israel. If you’re not disgusted by the wars in the old testament, why would you in present day?
Wait these genocidal idiots really called it “Operation Narnia”?
wtf
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This would be disgusting if it was just a normal act of war, of killing soldiers and calling it a cute name like this to disguise how any war is a tragedy, but there is a much more serious red flag here about Israel and Israeli society, this shows a blatant disregard for the humanity of these SCIENTISTS by assassinating them and making a joke out of it about sending them to dream land. Not only is this murder, the motive is a blatant lie, Iran was not developing a nuclear weapon that is undeniable and unarguable based on the overwhelming evidence.
If you still think that Israel and the US aren’t coming for science, freedom of thought and peace in general you are a fool. I live in the heart of this dying empire, the US, and let me tell you, they are coming for you if you are a scientist, run or fight, either is fine but pick one soon before it is too late.
Meanwhile Iran is always promising to ethnically cleanse Jews from the Middle East constantly chanting “death to Israel” and they call what they do “Operation True Promise” when targeting civilian population centers while saying to Israeli civilians “Either you must choose ‘gradual death’ in hellish life in shelters or save your lives from the 24-hour missile rain and flee as soon as possible from the lands usurped by your ancestors, so that you may survive.” I guess that’s a sign of a healthy society?
There’s also Operation Rising Lion. Iran’s flag used to have a Lion on it. Israel doesn’t seem to want to destroy Iran unlike Iran’s “True Promise” to wipe Israel off the map. But you can take “Rising Lion” to mean they want Iran to rise from being a country run by authoritarian religious nutjobs.
These are some really wild and generalizing claims about Iran and Iranian people and honestly you should be ashamed of yourself.
As someone on the left in the US I want to make it clear I think you are behaving in a pathetic way and yet I would never draw conclusions about Israelis or Israel the way you just casually did about Iranians even though Israel is committing a Genocide Of Palestinians. There are many Iranians with a wide variety of views on Israel, but no… they do not desire a genocide of Israelis the way Israelis desire a genocide of Palestinians that is the ugly truth and yet even as I perceive it I know there is nothing inherent to Israelis that makes them incapable of seeing the humanity of Palestinians because I know all too well how easy it is to fall into the same awful mindset as someone from the US.
This is ALL a choice about how we flatten other groups into simple narratives. The most important thing about leftism to me is never forgetting that.
I come from a war-like society, I can respect the call to war when it is done out of a genuine desire to defend what you hold dear, Israel’s call to war is not a call to war it is a call to genocide and it reimagines the atrocities of US colonization reflected and reanimated into a modern middle eastern conflict. I will not stand for it, I will resist the dehumanization of all people, Iranians, Palestinians, Israelis, Muslisms, Jews… we are people alike.
Also there is NO evidence that Iran has been pursuing producing a nuclear weapon for… decades?
You literally just posted paragraphs of bold text with wild and generalizing claims about Israel and Israeli people. Someone needs to be ashamed of themselves here, and maybe exercise a little self awareness?
I am clearly talking about the Ayatollah regime’s officially stated goals, not the Iranian people. I’m also mentioning the opportunity for Iranians to have a better government. It’s obviously up to the Iranian people if they want a better government, I think we all know at this point that regime change has to come from within a country.
As someone on the left
Since you’re someone on the left, you you seemed to have picked up the nasty habit of feeling entitled to speak on behalf of other people. If you’re not Iranian please don’t act like you know what’s best for them. That’s a very “white man’s burden” mentality that’s become prevalent in the left.
The oppressive authoritarian regime that’s ruling over Iran has been weakened. It’s up to the Iranian people what they want to do next. It’s not up to me or you.
The story of Israel is the story of the US in many ways, and the same species of denial reflected, shattered and mutated into a new context with different pre-existing histories doesn’t change the nature of this, that it is the same old process of colonialism violently denying itself. I recognize the primal scream because I have shamefully participated in it in the past cycles of this story, not because I actually understand myself as impervious to its violent impulse.
This has nothing to do with religion, any -ism, any broad category of people, it is just the nature of how colonialism was designed to divide us.
This isn’t university, you can talk normal here.
Are you telling me this isn’t a wizard school?! Wait
I understood that comment. I legit don’t know what you were saying in the previous one.
Narnia? What an odd name. What did they kill them with, a lion or a wardrobe?
The Lyin’ Bitch and the War Globe.
Commentary:
You’re linking to the Times of Israel. Since the news outlet operates in Israel, it is subject to censorship by the IDF, and they have chosen to use their power to censor the article and omit weapon types.
If you want information about assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists, get their list from Wikipedia and google each of their names, looking for descriptions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassinations_of_Iranian_nuclear_scientists
My guess: guided missile or drone strikes. All the assassinations happened at a time of Israeli air strikes over Iran. Whatever weapon was used, was deployed from airplanes. Given the high profile of the targets, Israeli intelligence agencies did their job this time (in Gaza, they seem to be feeding their troops low quality AI slop).
I have always been amazed that countries are allowed to get away with this. You would expect that a country that does this would have their leadership rounded up by an international strike force instantly and hauled to Hague.
You have been playing too much rainbow six. There are no good guys in the halls of power looking after us.
There are only the rich fucks over here and the rich fucks over there pulling the levers of power.
There’s a rules-based international order. We make the rules, and guess who gives the orders.
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Russia is on the security council. As far as we understand, they are part of the international organization that makes the rules
There is no “international authority”. It’s all big stick politics out there. It’s like trying to go after a corporation in the US. The “punishments” when they break the law are fines, if that, and any admonishment not to fuck over the same person in the same way again.
Think about your boss shorting you $100. The “legal” process involves YEARS of waiting for a court date, a labor code interpreted heavily in favor of the employer, and at the end of the day, they get fines and maybe have to pay back what you rightfully earned in the first place.
Now think about what happens when you steal $100 from work. Immediate police involvement, possible arrest, absolute legal consequences even if you’re cleared years later, the presumption of guilt from everyone in society.
It’s even worse on a political stage. Nobody has the moral fortitude to step forward and fix shit because it’s broken. Everyone just waits around until the collective consciousness supports some sort of social consequence on the offender in question. That’s not even tying race or religion into the mix, which Israel loves to twist up into their particular brand of nationalism.
The civil world is simply too polite to call them out for all their shit. It’s a whole world full of chickenshit and I am tired of the stink.
It’s like that saying goes: “The law is the same for everyone, neither the king nor the beggar may sleep under a bridge.”
That’s BS. The king would never need to sleep under a bridge and if he chose to the police would be there to kick out the homeless people and make sure the king is safe for the night.
That’s the point of the saying. The law can be crafted to treat everyone equally, while only benefitting the king.
Edit: It’s why the billionaire media is so angry at the concept of “equity” and “wokeness”. Both terms help us beggars discuss our situation, and both might threaten the king’s throne, if we realize how simply the laws could be adjusted for what we want from them, rather than for what the king wants.
Nobody has the moral fortitude to step forward and fix shit because it’s broken.
I bet this guy knows how to play Mario Kart.
You mean like when Gerald Bull was killed? Surely an accident.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Bull
Which is why I am sitting in disbelief that Iran could be so monumentally stupid.
Nation level retaliation would ensue. Maybe possible to do in some country matchups, but not possible in all.
This isn’t how anything works. No government cedes this kind of authority to anyone and trying to enforce it would lead to war even among allies.
The alternative is “drop bombs”.
Rounding up leaders and putting them on trial seems like a more civilized international approach than engaging in the same bloodthirsty, explosive, surprise-murder that is literally the whole problem here.
You don’t have the alternative to go into other people’s country and round up people because people will absolutely shoot any such folks then drop bomb’s on your cities and forces. It’s not my fault you are confused about what the options are.
Trying to give Iran nukes is pretty close to accompliss to mass murder. Iran is a terrorist state.
Anyone should reasonably be trying to negotiate to avoid loss of life but at the end of the day killing them may be the lesser of two evils from the perspective of the would be target.
Terrorism is internationally recognized as when a group or organization unaffiliated with a recognized government uses violence to achieve a political goal. “Terrorist state” is a contradiction in terms.
Netanyahu is leading a genocide and starting wars, all to avoid the regular democratic and legal process of Israel. Why are you carrying water for him?
The weapon: 💣
They are flying jets, using drones, and even small explosives. The homes of these scientists were severely damaged. The richest countries of the world are backing Israel.
Is this just Israel putting out propaganda? These scientists thought they were safe at home. Sinister! Super secret weapon that blows up apartment buildings. Sounds revolutionary!
As usual this is teenage boy logic. They are posing with their guns as recruitment propaganda. No it’s a super secret magic cool gun from god you haven’t even heard of it because it’s so futuristic and we’re cool so not at all evil, right
Where’s Daddy? wtf
