The death toll means around ten percent of the kibbutz’s population was wiped out

The bodies of more than 100 people were discovered by volunteers in a single, small Israeli village Monday — including those of children — believed to have been killed by Hamas militants caught on camera.

The remains were discovered in Be’eri, or Bari, a kibbutz in southern Israel close to Gaza. It’s one of the villages Hamas militants invaded on Saturday as they began their attack on the country.

“Today the volunteers entered Kibbutz Bari and it is impossible to explain in words the terrible sights - some were adults, some were children. These are horrors that cannot be grasped in the mind or soul,” a spokesperson for Zaka search and rescue told IDF radio.

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    Not saying you’re wrong, but Israel funded those fanatics so the Palestinian peace movement would lose steam. They wanted this to happen.

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      You are painfully correct, but it is a complicated situation stretching to the days of Prime Minister Itzhak Rabin and his assassination, and there’s history before that.

      If you want to brutally simplify it, you can point the finger at the current prime minister and the Israeli settlers and their supporters in the right wing.

      Just don’t forget to point your other finger at Hamas, abu-mazen (PLO leader, Holocaust denier), Yasser Arafat and Iran.

      It is, as I said previously, complicated.

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        Why would I point the finger at Hamas? It wouldn’t exist if Israel didn’t support it while they were taking out people Israel wanted gone.

        I feel the same way about al queda, we created it so we don’t get to complain.

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          Hamas started in 1987 and always was a Muslim ISIS-like organization who’s goal was the destruction of Israel.

          Until the rule of Benjamin Netanyahu, no Israeli government supported Hamas. Quite the contrary, it fought against it. It is not like the US and Al-Queda (which was used as a proxy against the Soviets).

          wouldn’t exist if Israel didn’t support it while they were taking out people Israel wanted gone.

          I’m not sure I understand your claim here.

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            Officially yes.

            Incorrect, netanyahu just didn’t hide it very well, bro there’s so many times where you have documented accounts of Israel letting Hamas attacks happen and then moving to stop them. It’s exactly the same were just father apart.

            Hamas could have and would have been exterminated in the 90s if Israel thought it benefitted them very simple, they needed a existential enemy so they made one.

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              Why would Israel keep Hamas since the 90’s while the PLO and Islamic Jihad did the same thing only worse?

              Where the hell are you bringing these conspiracy theories from?

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                Hm. They actually seem to be kinda right. According to this article and this one, which source Israeli government officials from the time, they helped them since the 80’s and basically helped make Hamas a thing. They did it to make the Muslim Brotherhood -based organization which ended up being Hamas and the more secular PLO fight each other, to basically drive a wedge in the Palestinians.

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                    Right?! I wouldn’t have believed the other person either if it weren’t for sources from pretty reputable news organizations. And it’s interesting that basically the same mistakes were made with these two different groups (Israel and Hamas, the US and Al-Queda). I bet it’s probably been done more in South America or Africa or something.

                    EDIT: But for others reading, no, it doesn’t make Hamas (or Al-Queda) the good guys. It just means there are multiple bad guys all around. But you can’t make me feel bad about being distraught from Hamas killing civilians. There were babies and other innocents in there who never did anything wrong to Palestinians, and rape is a war crime that I can never just look over.

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                    Yeah it’s fucked, the entire history of the area is fucked because three 2000 year old toddlers can’t get along and stop being mean during story time.