A Brentwood homeowner has been unable to evict an Airbnb tenant who won’t leave or pay rent.
Okay. So this person doesn’t have the permits to even rent out the house. Makes a profit off of the rent. Didn’t repair the house.
Get fucked.
Airbnb is truly the evil outlier of late stage capitalism and the housing crisis.
Airbnbs were great before everyone thought their shed was worth a hotel price. It was convenient and pleasant as an alternative but now it is the mainstream it is painful.
airbnb’s were never great. couchsurfing was. airbnb always was a way to save on taxes for renting out actual bed&breakfast rooms. it was clear from the start, that airbnb led to empty houses, that people couldn’t afford the horrendous prices and had to move out. that big landlords would rent out individual rooms for double their worth… i don’t think the airbnb business model was ever “great” except for landlords
You beat me to it. Couchsurfing had a website long before airbnb it just wasnt as popular because it wasnt about making money.
Then people forgot it existed.
No, couchsurfing killed themselves when they became a corporation and started trying to monetize. They were a non-profit, but changed to a class B corp. Fuzzy on the details there, but it was the beginning of the end. I was a lonf time couchsurfer, had a lot of great times thanks to them, but it started feeling noticeably different after the change and I stopped using it.
no unfortunately, couchsurfing changed their webstie model, made a paywall to even access old profiles, held people hostage. i couldn’t even login without paying money, so i never logged in. a shame.
I disagree, I made my way across plenty of my country with some very nice options for a room. It might not have ever been great in NYC but in less busy areas it was nice to have options and availability outside of dated BnBs and hotels especially where neither of those existed.
Airbnb provides a service that I like. It’s gone downhill for sure but it is convenient.
The solution isn’t to nuke Airbnb and put Chesko up against the wall. It’s to regulate the fuck out of Airbnb like they do in New York. In my city (not NY) the taxes on Airbnb profits are 50%, you need a permit, and you have heavy restrictions on the duration of the stay. This is the way.
It was Airbnb, but because of repairs he agreed to extend her stay beyond the reservation which is why she is now being considered a tenant.
The is their guest house. The owner’s family lives on the property.
There are many far more impactful examples of late stage capitalism than a Airbnb renter squatting in some family’s backyard
“some family’s backyard”? did you read the article? This was a big mansion somewhere where famous people live. and they can’t evict the person because they’re lacking the permits for the rental. and it all started because they didn’t get the house in proper shape. so yeah, fuckem
It’s a guest house, in their yard. Yes I understand that yard is probably larger than most, but the definition doesn’t change just because it’s a rich neighborhood. And the point is this isn’t some house bought in some working-class neighborhood to make money off rentals while driving up prices and gentrifying the area, it’s a guest house on a property the family already owns and lives on. Hence why the “late stage capitalism” tag seems like a bit of a stretch.
Interesting that lacking a rental permit is somehow grounds for continuing to have someone living on the property rather than further grounds for eviction. I wonder if you’d apply the same logic to a room you listed on AirBnB to make some extra money off unused space without researching permits requirements.
here’s the thing: in the past i have used couchsurfing to house people. i don’t intend to make “extra money” off of people needing a roof over their head.
So it’s on to live on a person’s property without paying? It’s OK to basically steal a person’s property? Because that’s what this basically is. She is living there and won’t leave. So he has no real access to that area of the property. She has effectively stolen it. So your logic is theft is OK.
And no you didn’t directly say it but you implied the hell out of it.
landlords have destroyed the housing market. It is no longer realistic for a middle class person to buy their home. So yeah, fuck that landlord.
So theft of property is ok. Thanks for your input. Let me know how you feel when someone steals something of yours.
Eat the rich. You know when people say that, they don’t necessarily mean they like cannibalism.
I guess you must belong to the class of those to be eaten though, so I see why you’d be upset.
We don’t own things anymore.
You don’t own a car? A phone?
At some point you’ll own a house. How would you like it if someone stole it?
Hey you’re on a board full of communists. Stealing property is literally, literally, their explicit goal.
Yes because only communists are upset at the state of things and want to revolt…
Americans and their bullshit political takes never cease to amaze me.
The housing crisis is just starting in the US. Look at Canada and Australia to see how fucked the housing market can get.
Honestly hadn’t noticed which place I was in. The post popped up in “all” for me and I just clicked on it and started reading comments.
In a side note it’s insane to think that theft of property is acceptable.
Your last statement is false. Institutional real estate investors particularly big SFR holds that title
Sounds like he tried to make a compromise and let her extend her stay. She on the otherhand abused that spirit of compromise and is trying to extort 100k. Also it’s not the first time doing this
It’s one thing to point to people who work hard and still get fucked over. There are many cases like that. This is not one.
It’s a convenient service that is in some places better or cheaper than hotels. It helps me make extra income after I added some ADUs to my property. I think it’s great.
How is a AirBnB “guest” a tenant at all? WTF? Think about hotels: What would a hotel do, if you overstayed? They’d lock you out and flip you the bird.
How is it not possible to just call the police because of trespassing?
In my area, it’s about the length of stay. That’s why hotels won’t let you stay for 30 consecutive days.
Some extended stay style hotels will actually check you out of the room and create a new reservation once you hit 30 days so that, on paper, you never go past the 30 day mark.
Based af. Abolish rent
So when I went away to university for 3 years, of which I spent 2 months each summer back with my parents, I should have bought a house while I was there, and then sold it once I was done with my studies?
Or is renting sometimes a useful and convenient system?
Were you in a two bedroom one bathroom apartment shared between 4 people with each paying $700+utilities with no laundry? Cause that’s how it works on the campus that I went to. Exploitative rent is evil.
So this sounds more like a supply and demand problem. The concept of renting itself isn’t the issue.
The current landowners have the entire supply. They tear down all the affordable housing on campus. A few developers then control all rentals on campus which enables them to inflate the demand artificially. That’s not a free market. That’s a cartel of corruption.
I think you meant to say they decreased the supply.
Thanks John Locke
Why stop there? If we can imagine a better capitalism than the one we have today, then we can imagine something better than capitalism entirely.
I can imagine lots of things.
And yet articulate none. No solutions, just pearl clutching
lol and what I should just let people stay in my property for free? Get real.
I think what they (poorly) meant was that there shouldn’t be individuals/entities that own multiple houses, to give everyone/more people the chance to own homes. There is a serious housing shortage because a lot of people and companies buy multiple homes. Some use it as basically a form of money (notably the Chinese) and others use it as a form of income (Individuals/entities that own 10 or more affordable/family homes and rent it out. Airbnb was/is a huge contributer to this issue)
As a rule, people today cannot buy homes and rent is a major reason why. In most places rent is over 60% of the average paycheck. How are you supposed to afford a house? You won’t even get accepted for a mortgage with the average paycheck. This issue has a lot of consequences, suchas the birthrate is falling at an exponential rate. It’s barely at the replacement level, and in some places, below. And the trend is continuing.
I agree that short-term rentals are bad, but having more normal rental units, if there is demand for it, is not a bad thing. It’s profitable and desirable for people/companies to buy up houses to rent because the rental demand is not being met and they can charge what they want. “Investor” owned housing is generally not sitting empty, so it’s not as much of a drain on housing as its popularity as a punching bag warrants.
It’s important that we don’t pit people who want to rent and people who want to buy against each other. We just need more housing supply. Period.
This issue has a lot of consequences, suchas the birthrate is falling at an exponential rate. It’s barely at the replacement level, and in some places, below. And the trend is continuing.
So at least some good comes of it.
unless you’re living there or otherwise using the place, it shouldn’t be ‘your property’.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
LOS ANGELES (KABC) – In Brentwood’s hillsides sits a community eye level with the Getty Center, whose neighbors include LeBron James and singer Fergie.
Repairs the guest house needed four months into her visit caused the initial animosity, which led Jovanovic to extend Hirschhorn’s stay beyond her Airbnb reservation.
And the guest house itself doesn’t have the right permits, so Jovanovic needs to find a legal reason to evict her, which he has yet to do successfully.
Jovanovic told Eyewitness News his hope in going public with his story is to help prevent others from facing a similar problem.
But during the Getty Center fire in 2019, he and his family were forced to move out - and some of his neighbors lost their homes.
Hirschhorn’s attorney told The Los Angeles Times Jovanovic has harassed her and is suing for intentional infliction of emotional distress, among other things.
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It began over two centuries ago comrade. It just keeps getting derailed by authoritarians that honestly believe that their ego is more important than The Revolution. We don’t need a leader, at least not as a government position. We need a council that any member can be removed through the electoral process, so that no single person can amass power to the point of enabling corruption, and all of the oppressed proletariat can finally progress into “The oppression of the Proletariat,” as Marx put it. Once a single civilization manages to democratically enforce “The Proletatiat’s Will,” we will see the first truly communist civilization that has existed since we destroyed The Six Nations.
They had a different form of communistic society that had lasted for at least 15,000 years. Archaeologists have found a lot of evidence that is 15,000 years old, China is a youngling to this civilization. The Six Nations claim they have been around for 25,000 years, with a stable government and society the entire time. There’s some archaeological evidence that would support this claim, found somewhat recently in San Diego that proves that the common ancestor of all humans but not apes was here 250,000 years ago, but there’s not a lot of conclusive evidence that we have found in the Northeastern US and Southeastern Canada, that dates back further than around 15,000 to 16,000 years.
Either way, China wishes it was “The Oldest and longest lived civilization ever.” They are at least 3 times younger, if not 5 times younger than a civilization that isn’t perfect by any means, but they provided stability by ensuring that “no law could/may be passed that didn’t/doesn’t directly benefit all of the children of the next 7 generations.”
Deary me
Based
A parasite.
So because they were here first, and stole all the land from the people, by “buying it” for trillionths of pennies on the dollar, we should respect their theft because they did it first?
No. The Commons must be respected, or The State must provide affordable housing such that a citizen pays a fixed percentage of their monthly income. Said fixed percentage should be between 2% as is the case in Estonia and Latvia, or as high as 5%, as is the case in multiple Nordic and Eastern European countries.
Meanwhile the rich, and corporations, aren’t allowed to make dynasties by purchasing land and intellectual property rights in perpetuity. You have never had an original idea, and neither have I. The vast majority of people don’t. All ideas must enter the public domain within 30 years.
The real problem you have is that the government under Clinton outlawed the government from owning more than a specific dollar amount of residential property. Meanwhile, the federal government owns more than 1/3 of the land in the country, and could totally create housing for those “undesirable tenants” that you can’t leech off of.
Landleeches must be regulated. You fuckers caused the housing shortage in every modern developed country in the world.
Edit: this was a reply that I finally managed to get posted to the correct thread in this comment section. I’m leaving it up, as, Lemmy clearly has some thread management issues, cause I told this comment to be posted as a response, not a parent comment.
