An Israeli military spokesperson confirmed that there were “hostage situations” in the southern city of Ofakim and the nearby kibbutz of Beeri.
Hamas said it had taken “dozens” of Israeli soldiers hostage and moved them to the Gaza Strip as footage emerged appearing to show gunmen in military fatigues leading a group of mostly barefoot women down a street in Israel.
The announcement and video verified by NBC News came hours after Hamas launched a deadly land, air and sea attack and fired a huge barrage of rockets at Israel.
I mean if you want to go there, then you can argue that literally anything is literally anything. Hamas is actually communist. Hamas is actually anarcho-capitalist.
When Hamas says they want to eradicate the Israeli Jews and establish a Muslim caliphate in Israel, and all of their actions support that claim, I believe them. Why wouldn’t I?
Correct. Which is not fascism. It’s religious zealotry.
Yes, they absolutely are, they do it all the time, they can barely go 3 sentences without quoting Mohammad or the Quran. It’s just not directly reflected in the Wikipedia article much. Check the sources though.
They are true believers. Sure, they also want power and they are also vicious racists, but that is secondary to their (particularly violent) interpretation of Islam and jihad.
Totally circular reasoning!
You: “they’re fascists”
Me: “no they’re not, and here’s proof from their own words”
You: “you can’t trust anything they say because they’re fascists!”
It’s Russels Teapot, it’s proving a negative, it’s conspiracy theory logic. Any proof is just dismissed as lies. And how do you know they’re lying about not being fascists? Because they’re fascists, and fascists lie!
They’re just not, dude. They’re terrible, but there’s many different forms of terrible. They’re not all fascism.
From your logic, nothing is fascism. The Nazis were the Nationalist Socialist party, therefore communist therefore not fascist! If the Nazis called themselves the Christian Nationalist Socialist Party would that make them a theocratic movement? Do you think North Korea is a democracy because they call themselves the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea? Do you always believe all authoritarians everywhere all the time?
Fascists lie. I mean they’re willing to murder people in the millions, why would you think lying would be a bridge too far for them?
You don’t know a fascist by what they claim to be. You know them from their actions and the emotional manipulations they use. These guys are all blood and soil in their own manifesto.
When you’re the king you don’t have to call yourself the king. When you’re a religious movement you don’t have to demand people to consider you to be a religious movement. Hamas declaring that their blood and soil narrative is a religious conflict gives away the game. They wouldn’t need to make such demands if their politcal intentions were implicitly religious.
Circular reasoning is when I ask for a reasonable plan for Hamas’ future that wasn’t propaganda and you provide me with propaganda directly from Hamas. I point out that fascist narrative even in their own propaganda documents and you declare it circular reasoning because I’m repeating the fact that fascists lie. Even your “proof” that Hamas isn’t fascist is dripping with well worn fascist narratives.
And so we’re back to the point of the circle where you’re again just saying “YOU’RE WRONG WHY DON’T YOU JUST ADMIT IT!”