I don’t get protesting for climate though. Isn’t it better to solicit and use lobbyist like the crooked government, big tobacco and energy industry uses.
I’ve never seen a tobacco executive standing in front of a truck yet they get their way all the time.
When do climate activists act like bugs bunny and start mirroring behavior that’s proven to work.
It takes a lot of money to bribe um… I mean lobby for change. By being disruptive you raise awareness and get media attention that makes the situation harder to ignore.
Isn’t it also expensive to protest. These organizations constantly need to solicit funds for this stuff. If climate is an issue that globally there is a huge support to solve. How hard would it really be to higher a couple lawyers, some marketeers, a couple quant phd and start targeting politicians.
You say its expensive but I know of individual families that do this type of thing to change laws because they own businesses locally that need laws changed.
Why is it that a climate protestor is standing in roads screaming while tobacco is at dinner with the people making the laws.
I know the FBI often infiltrated organizations back in the 70s and directed them how to behave so that they couldn’t grow and become bigger threats. They would get these groups to chase red herrings and look foolish burning energy on ineffective goals. That seems like its not talked about anymore. But when I see people throwing paint at works of art or fastening their own necks to industrial machinery while the blue collar every man labourer just trying to do his job has the controls, it reminds me of those stories from the 70s.
So how much money are we talking about? Because it seems like every industry except climate has their own
Shouldn’t this be a problem that gets millions in funding. How many protestors are there willing to give up their time but not $5?
I don’t understand the refusal by climate protesters to play the game that everybody from my dentist to the big industrial players play.
How did climate protester’s get convinced that using the methods and tactics that work for every other industry should be avoided
Also, lobbying isn’t bribery. Lobbying is part of the Democratic process. Its keeping your issues in front of the politician. Its arguing for your cause. Often times there is a think tank that compiles information like polling data. Lawyers build laws. and other information favorable to your issue is all compiled and then the lobbyist brings it to the politician where they convince the politician that if they champion your issue then it would benefit them. They present compiled information to support their argument.
Not sure why climate activists are yelling at art instead of lobbying. Some lobbying is straight up bribery. But often its more like I described above. Its doing all the leg work and arguing why a politician needs to be on your side. Industry figured it out long ago. Why haven’t regular people
You really don’t seem to understand just how big the wealth disparity between the entirety of humanity and the wealthiest 100 or even 1000 people on the planet is.
Throwing what is essentially pocket change at those who serve the money hoarding monsters (our governments) is as useless as putting a band aid on a cancer, and not even a full finger sized one, but one of those dots, you know that you get for a shot.
Oh, and never even mind that lobbying absolutely is bribery, the fact that anyone actually sees it as a legitimate tool goes to show just how fucked we are.
These lemmies saved the world with this one weird tip! Big Oil HATES them!
But seriously, the above. Big Oil and corporate lobbyists in general don’t want you to know that lobbying can be done by the public, by making it so taboo that it makes good causes look bad if they lobby.
I don’t get protesting for climate though. Isn’t it better to solicit and use lobbyist like the crooked government, big tobacco and energy industry uses.
I’ve never seen a tobacco executive standing in front of a truck yet they get their way all the time.
When do climate activists act like bugs bunny and start mirroring behavior that’s proven to work.
It takes a lot of money to bribe um… I mean lobby for change. By being disruptive you raise awareness and get media attention that makes the situation harder to ignore.
Isn’t it also expensive to protest. These organizations constantly need to solicit funds for this stuff. If climate is an issue that globally there is a huge support to solve. How hard would it really be to higher a couple lawyers, some marketeers, a couple quant phd and start targeting politicians.
You say its expensive but I know of individual families that do this type of thing to change laws because they own businesses locally that need laws changed.
Why is it that a climate protestor is standing in roads screaming while tobacco is at dinner with the people making the laws.
I know the FBI often infiltrated organizations back in the 70s and directed them how to behave so that they couldn’t grow and become bigger threats. They would get these groups to chase red herrings and look foolish burning energy on ineffective goals. That seems like its not talked about anymore. But when I see people throwing paint at works of art or fastening their own necks to industrial machinery while the blue collar every man labourer just trying to do his job has the controls, it reminds me of those stories from the 70s.
So how much money are we talking about? Because it seems like every industry except climate has their own
Trouble is you need a LOT of money to be effective at that. And I am talking £millions to bribe each MP/politician.
Shouldn’t this be a problem that gets millions in funding. How many protestors are there willing to give up their time but not $5?
I don’t understand the refusal by climate protesters to play the game that everybody from my dentist to the big industrial players play.
How did climate protester’s get convinced that using the methods and tactics that work for every other industry should be avoided
Also, lobbying isn’t bribery. Lobbying is part of the Democratic process. Its keeping your issues in front of the politician. Its arguing for your cause. Often times there is a think tank that compiles information like polling data. Lawyers build laws. and other information favorable to your issue is all compiled and then the lobbyist brings it to the politician where they convince the politician that if they champion your issue then it would benefit them. They present compiled information to support their argument.
Not sure why climate activists are yelling at art instead of lobbying. Some lobbying is straight up bribery. But often its more like I described above. Its doing all the leg work and arguing why a politician needs to be on your side. Industry figured it out long ago. Why haven’t regular people
You really don’t seem to understand just how big the wealth disparity between the entirety of humanity and the wealthiest 100 or even 1000 people on the planet is.
Throwing what is essentially pocket change at those who serve the money hoarding monsters (our governments) is as useless as putting a band aid on a cancer, and not even a full finger sized one, but one of those dots, you know that you get for a shot.
Oh, and never even mind that lobbying absolutely is bribery, the fact that anyone actually sees it as a legitimate tool goes to show just how fucked we are.
I would like know what you think lobbying is?
Can you explain the steps or walk me through how its always certainly bribery.
These lemmies saved the world with this one weird tip! Big Oil HATES them!
But seriously, the above. Big Oil and corporate lobbyists in general don’t want you to know that lobbying can be done by the public, by making it so taboo that it makes good causes look bad if they lobby.