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      It doesn’t, but the mods (not just these ones, but of any technology community) never seem to remove posts that aren’t actually about technology.

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        Because the definition of what is and isn’t technology is arbitrary. Wikipedia says “Technology is the application of conceptual knowledge to achieve practical goals, especially in a reproducible way.” By that definition, social media is a technology (uses knowledge of computers and networking to enable online communication), but also so are most human creations.

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    I have a really hard time seeing a difference between X and Bluesky. Both are run by billionaires for their amusement and benefit. Why are people so hopeful about bluesky?

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        Oh, really? OK, that makes it definatelly less terrible. I guess I need to update myself about the organization behind it then. Thanks for the correction!

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          They got funding from Twitter and Jack was on the board for a bit, but he bailed and formally quit (funny enough he bailed because they did more moderation than he wanted)

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        Dorsey is THE founder of BLUESKY, and is it’s largest shareholder, even though he is no longer on the board, and went through the theater of closing his BLUESKY account, he will have the say as to who BLUESKY is sold to, when eventually it will be. Fool me once.

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      Having used it for several days now, I can tell you the difference is that Bluesky is a lot like Lemmy - not filled with hate and vitriol, and easy to make it what you want by selecting your feeds and following things you care about while pruning the rest.

      The people who can’t socialize properly with others are swiftly dealt with. Subscription blocklists make it really easy to just annihilate any possible interaction between yourself and undesirables. I have several blocklist subscriptions for MAGA chuds and White Supremacists for example. And when you block someone on Bluesky they can’t see what you write and you’ll never see anything from them ever again. Zero interaction from that point on. So the housekeeping actions actually keep the house clean.

      Once you’ve done the initial housekeeping, it’s just full of people talking about cool stuff, and when someone crashes the party to be nasty they are quickly shown the door. It’s wonderful.

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        Also trying out Bluesky, and it is a lot like Twitter used to be, but it has the potential to turn out like Xitter is today, because at the end of the day Bluesky is a for-profit startup corporation.

        Sooner or later, Bluesky is going to want to make money for its shareholders, and that means any of: 1) Selling advertisements, 2) Selling your personal data, and/or 3) In a classic tech startup play, selling itself to the highest bidder like: Android, YouTube, and yes, Twitter.

        And with commercialization, or in Xitter’s case a fool with too much money, comes enshittification.

        Lemmy is nothing like a for-profit startup company, as far as I know, but that doesn’t make it enshittification-proof, but at least it won’t take the commercialization route.

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          I was talking about the atmosphere, not the architecture.

          It’s the best thing out there of its type right now. I’m not going to shit on it because of what might happen in the future. I’m sure something else will come along to move to if that happens.

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          It’s not the unusable firehose that mastodon is, and it’s a lot less fediverse-stanny. (it’s not actually federated yet).

          I kind of like it, it feels like the right level of engagement, and there’s a culture of just block the assholes, grownups are talking.

          It’s worth a few days to try it out. Nice place.

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      Because one of them is actively promoting and favouring viewpoints many people find abhorrent.

      The fact it’s owned by a billionaire isn’t the major concern for most people.

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        Yes. Having centralized ownership (to whatever extent) is a concern for sure, but it’s a hypothetical concern in and of itself: “what if the leadership does bad things?” Is different from “the leadership is currently doing bad things.”

        Decentralization helps. But if the networks effects aren’t behind it, jumping from platform to platform when things DO get bad is also viable.

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      It’s run by a millionaire, not a billionaire. People like it because it’s Twitter without Musk. That’s it.

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        That’s a big motivator for the migration but that’s not “it,” people on bsky seem to prefer the way blocking on bsky works, especially since X made your posts visible to people you have blocked.

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            It bothers some people. I think it’s just something you need to be aware of. If you want to stop seeing someone’s posts without hurting their feelings or whatever, you could always mute.

            What I think is a tougher problem is that if/when it actually federates with a third party, the third party may not treat blocks the same way. I haven’t looked at AT proto in while, I wonder if that is addressed or it will have to be a shrug.

            Kinda how on Lemmy votes are hidden for plebs in the UI, but not on kbin.

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      The problem is not that they are billionaires. But one is run by an obvious malignant narcissist, and the other is not.
      One is responsible the other is not.

      Here’s a very down to earth explanation of why Twitter after Musk became an ethical problem.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8zfgIgZ4c0

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    So tired of hearing about this platform that, afaiu, is barely even federated and not really decentralized. Why the hype when fedi exists?

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        A very vocal minority is using it, and only because Musk changed the moderation rules on X. Otherwise Twitter was as shit as it has ever been

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              Basically, a group of black users were being racist to white individuals by making a bunch of generalizations, so i wanted to point out the hypocrisy by making an obviously racist generalization of my own. I commented, “All black people are disgusting”, and was rightfully called out, but the irony was that they were doing something pretty similar calling white people colonizers and other things like that.

              The result? I got mass reported and banned, and due to Reddit’s inability to identify nuance in comments, my appeals were all for naught.

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    I’m liking bluesky a lot, seems like they rolled back most of twitters toxicity. I’m seeing a lot of communities jump over and I’m all for it, we need more options on social media.

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    The collapse of X should’ve been the movement to get rid of social media, not replace it with another identical platform

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    Oh, gee, there’s this thing called Bluesky that’s an alternative to Xitter?

    Never seen anything about it ever posted here and in every other community before, thanks for letting us know!

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    Despite the predictable dumpster fire of a comment section sharing this would inevitably lead too, I’m glad you shared it, it was a pleasant read.

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    Ah yes, always good to retreat to a safespace of open, and honest dialogue. Sadly, liberals can’t stand not forcing their opinion on people so this will be shortlived.