• granolabar@kbin.melroy.org
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    1 month ago

    People covered it some but without going to the weeds.

    Without Ukraine Russia is just another big country, with Ukraine they are a super power.

    This has been the case since 1700s. Russia will destroy itself before Ukraine will be free.

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      1 month ago

      What’s the key value of Ukraine that turns Russia into a superpower? Agriculture? Ports?

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        1 month ago

        Natural resources, industrial base, geography…

        But really a large educated population that theoretically could be easily integerated back in to the russian system

        I think easy integration is now kinda done, too much bad blood.

        Hence why geopolitics analyst keep repeating Russia already lost since they wont get Ukraine in condition they it need it.

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          1 month ago

          Yeah I was wondering that myself. If the people are any part of what’s desired, they don’t seem to want to contribute to Russia, especially in the task of absorbing others.