• x4740N@lemm.ee
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    I’m just going to speak my mind as a Closeted transwoman who would look like a guy

    I didn’t honestly want to get involved with this thread at all in fear of creating an absolute mess

    But being trans myself I see myself having empathy for both woman’s and men’s rights because I know and understand the issues men are facing and see the issues woman are facing

    I don’t like seeing the devide on either side and absolutely hate seeing the division and fighting especially when people advocate for men’s rights or woman’s rights

    I personally advocate for both because I see everyone having rights as part of equality and equity and if you don’t want any one group to have rights then that isn’t equality or equity

    We should be free to talk about both men’s rights and woman’s rights without being attacked for it

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      YES!

      As a person who is just genuinely against all discrimination, including discrimination of women and men, I never quite understood why is this divide so powerful.

      We’ll do our best if we work together, not compete for attention. Women face real issues. Men face real issues. Many of them play out of each other, and solving one would help untangle the other.

      All while people will seemingly rip you apart for saying we could work together.

      No, I don’t want to play the tug of war or steal the attention from the problem of “your side”. I just see how those issues intertwine, and working with both is paramount if we actually want to solve them. Let’s do that instead of whatever mess has been created.

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      Someone downvoted you which is lame. All you’ve advocated for is that both groups have their issues be respected in public discourse.

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        Because like the comic is pointing out as the issue and that OP has just done that exact thing - steering the conversation of topic away from the focus.

        In a discussion about women by a woman, it sounds crazy but maybe they want the focus to be on women. That doesn’t mean men issues don’t matter or don’t exist. There are an infinite number of venues to discuss it that are not in a thread regarding women issues.

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          Is this thread really about women’s rights though?

          It’s more of a meta thread about the issue the comic brings up, it’s about how some men switch the topic around. If the comic was intended to focus entirely on women’s rights it would end at the first image

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          And it’s fine to talk about enby issues in any discussion, because enbies are the most oppressed gender demographic.

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          Yea, that happens online. It rarely happens irl with regular folk. It’s really quite obvious when you actually interact with the outside world regularly. I’ve found that many ppl do empathize with most ppl’s problems. More often than what online comics imply.