Surely that means he also took a hefty pay cut to keep on as many people as possible. Wouldn’t that be what accepting accountability looks like?
Found the commie! /s
We had layoffs last year, and two of the managers opted to quit their jobs rather than fire an additional staff member.
Sadly their replacements are not as nice.
My manager just went on vacation the week they laid off his team. Didn’t hear a word from that coward after the fact.
Accountability: : the quality or state of being accountable
especially : an obligation or willingness to accept responsibility or to account for one’s actionsHe’s literally saying “this is my fault.” That doesn’t mean he’s willing to suffer the consequences personally. Not defending his decisions, just pointing out that people seem to be misunderstanding what “accountable” means.
This is usually (expected) followed up with… “well, the fuck are you going to do about it, then” and this fuckface decided to pussy out and fuck over 500 people.
So I mean, half right, but that’s still a giant red F in my book.
CEO Drew Houston will remain in his job.
So not full accountability.
“full accountability” means moving those 500 workers’ salaries into his paycheck.
Don’t forget the bonus for cutting costs!
How very noble of him.
It’s the sentiment that counts.
That’s not what accountability means
CEOs are not good people.
Few people are truly good people.
CEOs have a weird propensity toward being bad which is above average, or maybe have higher risk of it by being in so much power
Sociopathic tendencies
“As CEO, I take full responsibility for this decision and the circumstances that led to it, and I’m truly sorry to those impacted by this change,” he wrote. “This market is moving fast and investors are pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into this space. This both validates the opportunity we’ve been pursuing and underscores the need for even more urgency, even more aggressive investment, and decisive action.”
Lol
Leaders often claim that they are taking accountability when they screw up—and they should, as CEOs like Houston are the ones who mismanaged the company to the point of requiring layoffs in the first place. But rarely does “taking accountability” actually amount to much of anything. The most notable recent example is perhaps that Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella asked the company’s board to reduce his pay in light of the major Crowdstrike hack. But in that case, his overall compensation still increased for the year by $30 million. Just, a little less up.
That, right there, is something that’s said right before someone learns the definition of “defenestration” the hard way
That is the opposite of taking accountability though…?
Yes, but only if you don’t speak C-Suite.
But, he hasn’t taken any responsibility for the years of scamming new customers with bait and switch schemes. They haven’t even changed their deceptive sales tactics. They are still a shitty, deceptive mega-corp that thrives on theft and lies.
If you are looking for an alternative to a mega-corp for secure, sharable online storage, I have used sync.com for a few years now and am very happy with them.
Funny story, those guys lost ALL my data a few years ago.
The dropbox guys or the sync guys?
Sync.
These services are so sketchy. Google Drive was telling me everything was synced for months, yet was syncing nothing. I was on a paid plan. There was no customer support. I think I tried everyone at some point. They all suck. Sync hasn’t fucked me over yet, but I will not be surprised when it happens.
It’s more effort ofc, but host your own solution via a nas or something. I have all my shit on one at home, syncing to devices and offering access over the internet, and I know that my shit is safe because I know what the fuck I’m doing, and strangely I’m not trying to fuck myself out of a monthly subscription or something. Never worry about getting flagged by some bot and getting my account purged. Very, very slim chance of a data breach, since the system auto-updates and is secured behind passwords, mfa, permissions on each user. It’s my data, under my control, doing what I want and nothing else. And it’s freaking fantastic.
I’m sold, but I looked into this for months and discovered that I am simply not technically competent enough to pull it off. You really need to know wtf you are doing to accomplish this IMO. Do you recommend a software or method for half-dummies that suck at networking and are useless at programming?
So I have an off-the-shelf nas from synology; while I have two additional servers (ThinkServer, VPS) that are barebones running Debian/proxmox, I haven’t moved away from the synology box because it’s so… not “easy” but it’s like bowling with the gutter guards in place. For example, if you tell the firewall “hey, block everything” it will try, fail to connect to the browser you are using, revert, and tell you. It has a nice web UI that is similar to a standard OS UI. It let’s you learn and try stuff, and when things go sideways it’s not an evening of combing through forums and pages of documentation. I can, I have, done the ‘from the ground up’ on the other two systems, but for the syno: why would I build my own box, redo effort - more effort - to get to the same outcome currently? So I will hold onto it until EoL, whenever that will be.
Not to sound like an advertisement, but it does file sharing pretty easily ootb, and you can either set up a DDNS with a subdomain of your choosing, and a list of domains owned by synology (for newbies), or you can use that DDNS system + hook it up your own domain, like MyWebsiteWhatever[.]org. Either way, you can then access your files via a browser, software for win/mac/linux, or from their mobile apps. I also use their photo solution, and have my family pics backed up straight from their phones. Every quarter I make sure that they haven’t been logged out (system update / reboots seem to jostle things) and all is well. They have a system for calendar/tasks, as well as for contacts, but I personally have moved away to a direct “radicale” (software name) system, which I think is what synology uses at its core for cal/task/contacts, just adding their gui. Anything else (for my situation) gets a docker container, and this is how I learned about containers. They seem like a black box, but they are absolutely fantastic. Again, great for learning in a controlled environment.
The whole system is very hand-holding, a bit too much so at times. But coming from a “I’m a geek who wants to learn ‘proper’ network sharing, and this seems to be a nice solution”, after researching a few popular options, I think I did well. If you can setup things like a static IP in your router, if you can port forward, and if you’re willing to shell out the initial cost for the system (which is overpriced, honestly, but you’re paying for the simplicity) and hard drives… you should try it. It’s not as scary as it looks. Shoot, if you want more details I can dive in and explain specific stuff, examples, screenshots. Though maybe over DMs so I don’t flood the post with unrelated stuff :p
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E2: more detail
“I declare accountability!”
That’s not how accountability works…
Accountability would be lowering your own pay in order to keep your workers and admit you did this because others shouldn’t have to suffer for your mistakes.
I’m sorry, but I don’t think you have what it takes to be a CEO
No matter! He said the thing so he’s absolved, that’s just CEO rules ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That seems kind of harsh. I’d totally accept falling on his own sword, maybe seppuku.
yes, this is more like that little hand wave that tennis players do to acknowledge a lucky point “sorry mate, your job is gone… moving on”
I wish someone would keep a list of all the companies that have laid employees off in the last few years, so we can keep tabs on who to not give our business to.
Would be easier to keep a list of those that didn’t.
Well, if dropbox can exist without those 500 employees, then it’s logical. You don’t judge success of a business by how many people it employs
The problem is that we judge its success by how much the wealthiest people bet on its success in a glorified casino instead of anything else, like its positive impact on society.
A plane can continue to fly without a pilot. The problem is not “continuing to exist”, but continued success or a spectacular crash.
Also, I’d bet on Dropbox being able to function quite well without its CEO.
Sure, if the CEO is replaced by someone else who can manage the company, sure. But you cannot generally expect people to manage themselves. That’s why communism never worked and never will.
Also, what is according to you a glorified casino?
Your comment does not make sense. In communist countries, companies still have CEOs, they just don’t have private shareholders, they are owned by the state. Not that I care about that.
And what I call a casino is the NYSE, when stocks offering no dividends are pumped to the stratosphere, with purely speculative buys.
Imagine calling stocks a casino xD
Imagine calling stocks your economy.
Not all stocks, though, just the ones with sharp upward trends despite the fundamentals and no dividends or voting rights. How are they different from a big-tech backed shitcoin? You don’t get part of the economic output or even the influence, they are simply a token given to you by a random corpo saying it will be worth more next month.
You can buy a part of company. If you buy 0.00001% of that company, you surely won’t take part in the decisions as your vote does not matter. From the other side, if millions of people owning 0.00001% of the company were making decisions, it would have been very slow to respond to the competition.
It’s all quite simple. If you disagree with company’s management, just sell the stocks. And no one is saying that company’s stock will be worth more next month.
You could argue that you can judge their success based on the ratio of employees they used to employ versus how many they employ now.
So if I have a small computer repair store and want to make it more successful, I should employ at least million people, so the ratio goes up?
Do you honestly think that’s a comparable analogy?
How about if you have a small computer repair store that employed 20 people last year, but due to the owner’s poor analogy game scaring off the customers, you only need 5 employees to fill all the available work this year? Would you say the employee count is an indicator of the health of the business?
The employees are more important than the boss. So yeah, I do count those jobs and feel it means something significant. Also, what does “logical” even mean to you? If the boss cut his own pay, he could have kept the employees. That’s just as logical, isn’t it? So you’re not talking about logic, are you.
If you want to talk about values, let’s do it. Please explain why multi millionaires (and richer) matter more than everyone else. Please.
Company is not a charity. There is a difference.
Suppose that dropbox employs twice as many people as other cloud providers. Would you be willing to pay them the twice amount for the same product the competition offers just because they employ more people?
You know, we live in the world of competition where you need to be ahead your rivals, otherwise your company fails (and all employees lose their jobs). So cutting costs where it’s possible makes perfect sense, especially if the employees can be replaced by computers or sth.
After paying $720/yr, then $840, then being told it would be over $900 this year, I wasn’t really happy about the cost of using Dropbox. But it’s been rock solid for many years and was heavily integrated into my company’s workflow, so I smiled and bent over.
Until they took away the unlimited storage. I was using 31TB, and they wanted to put me at 15TB with no option to upgrade even if I wanted to.
I already had an on-site NAS, so I bought another for $3k (with drives) and asked a family member in another state to house it. I’m using Resilio to sync everything. It’s been backing up for a couple of months and probably has a couple more to go. So far I’m happy with the decision.
I have to imagine I’m not the only one making this move. Even if they fix the problem, I’m not going back. It’s far cheaper to keep a customer than to win a new one. Hopefully they learn their lesson.
Is this for personal or professional? I have a small server (few TB) and I’m amazed the immense amounts of data some people hoard for fun. I always thought it was mad to keep movies, until I tried to get the original lion king on my native language and decent quality and it took me days to find. Won’t delete that one
It’s both. My company is nearly twenty years old and I have an archive of everything I have ever done. … And a plex library.
Narrator: They won’t.
It’s funny because the people behind the decision will likely profit from enshitifying the company so that it’s no longer useful or profitable in a few years.
So in a way they’re learning the lesson that they should keep company hopping and soaking customers wherever they go, because everyone (at their pay grade) gets rich, and then they just move on.
That is the entire purpose of the decision
See Boeing, intel today, but history is littered with examples
The MBA playbook
When COVID hit, the management team at the company I worked for, took temporarily salary hits. The rest of us were told our quarterly bonuses would be frozen. Nobody would be laid off unless it’s an emergency.
Company pivoted in just a few months thanks to smart executive decisions and hard working engineers. The quarterly bonuses were paid out anyway. Nobody was laid off. We saved a bunch of our B2B customers’ livelihoods by offering solutions that helped them continue operate during lockdowns (and our company’s income was directly dependent on THEIR income - if they suffered, we suffered, if they prospered, we prospered). Of course, the CEO was also the founder of the company and at that point, there had been no investors or anyone involved. It was truly a family-run company that had made it big.
THAT is accountability. Doing whatever you can to keep your staff employed and your customers happy.
That company has since enshittified because of management changes and I’ve left for greener pastures, but if I’m ever in charge of my own company and the financials look bleak, I’ll take the hit myself. It’s easier to replace money than it is to replace good, hard working people. And good people will help you pivot if your business model is no longer working out.
Some of you will lose your job, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make. I take full accountability.
“Full accountability”, as in, they’re still fired, he still have his big paycheck and assorted bonuses, and the more general “fuck them” attitude will remain.
That’s not accountability, that’s shitting on people and smiling about it.
It’s like a YouTuber apology. “Oh I done fucked up, I am so sowwy” while sitting on a cozy couch in a multi-million-dollar home
So brave!
“This hurts me more than it hurts you”
