Before tractors, almost the entire food chain involved animal slavery, since farms used draft animals. For that matter, even transportation was based on animal slavery (horses). Many of the sustainable and high performance fabrics like wool, silk, and leather are now replaced by synthetic fossil-derived plastics. But petroleum is also an animal product.
To be vegan, is to choose fossilized animal products and services over fresh.
there is a lot of weird things about what you’re saying, but for one:
the same amount or more petroleum would be spend on cultivating food for the to-be-slaughtered animals and transporting the meat around.
I’m not a vegan (anymore), but veganism is still the lesser evil here
I always wonder how many people who think eating meat is murder, evil, etc. have actually watched animals die in the wild. If I had to choose between getting knocked out with a stunner or being chased down by a predator, struggling and screaming while being torn apart by teeth and claws until finally losing consciousness from blood loss and pain - which is how wild animals tend to die - I would absolutely pick the slaughterhouse any time. From that standpoint alone I would absolutely call eating meat the lesser evil.
Of course death is only one dimension - many domestic animals live in terrible conditions - but mistreatment isn’t necessary for vegans to condemn using animal products. Even eating honey is frowned on, simply because bees are animals. I don’t think that simple flat rule takes enough information into account.
My issue pertains more to forcibly breeding animals into existence for the sole purpose of exploiting them, and also the often terrible conditions they are kept in. I consider hunting and fishing to be more ethical than industrial animal ag, so long as it is done in a responsible manner (yes, I know this is subjective).
Nature is brutal, but industrial animal ag has absolutely heinous abuses.
The problem with factory farming isn’t the end of the animal’s life, it’s everything that comes before then. Factory animals live absolutely miserable existences.
Not talking about eating meat, that’s vegetarianism. Many animals eat grass or waste products, like chickens and pigs.
Veganism as a rejection of all animal products and services, is a full embrace of petroleum.
But petroleum isn’t just plants, it also includes organic matter from animal corpses. Think before you say these things, Mitch.
Why?
It’s a shower thought not a thesis.
Vegans reject wool and feathers because of animal servitude. The alternative is synthetic polyester fiber.
Vegans reject draft animals and horse riding in favor of internal combustion.
Vegans reject natural local animal trans fats for coconut and palm oil shipped around the world by burning oil, and sometimes harvested by monkey slaves anyway.
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True story bro
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/10/19/448960760/monkeys-pick-coconuts-in-thailand-are-they-abused-or-working-animals
In SE Asia, you can find fruit or coconut vendors that you give the money to and then they send a monkey up to pick whatever off the tree for you.
I don’t know how well compensated or how well treated the monkey is, but I would hope the monkey feels it has a cushy life.
LOL yes, even from here you can still smell the reddit. Say the sky is blue and somebody will object because it’s not always, and maybe even go down a rabbit hole because the sky includes outer space, which is black, and also glowing stars of many colors. And ur mom!