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    • Multimedia/ h264 codecs ??
    • KDE/GSconnect
    • Something like Arch’s downgrade package + an archive of package versions
    • Hardware video acceleration support is sorely lacking
    • Picture-in-picture in Gnome’s Wayland (bug that a gnome-shell extension fixes!)
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      Multimedia codecs have a different license agreement than the OS so they aren’t bundled by default for a reason

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        I don’t care about the licenses. If I click on my media and it refuses to play because some codec is omitted by default, am annoyed nonetheless.

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          Most distros have a checkbox during the installer that will add non-free components. It’s a separate EULA you need to agree to so they can’t do it for you.

          You may not care, but the distro provider’s legal team absolutely cares about not getting sued for automatically bundling components with an incompatible license agreement

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            The non-free components I’ve seen on installers are usually for Nvidia’s proprietary drivers. Not codecs.

            Sounds like legal panic if you ask me. There’s been no precedent for litigation on use of licensed codecs which most have been using either way prior in their builds and packages.

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              MPEG LA is (now Via Licensing Alliance) has been active in collecting fees and defending patents. There is no reason to assume they won’t go after distros, particularly those who can pay given that they are willing to take on anyone else. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_LA

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                They have never gone after said distros all those many many years they have bundled licensed codecs in their ISOs. What changed?

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                  Because those distros have (as we are talking about) distanced themselves from the patent encumbered codecs? When Google tried to get behind VP8, MPEG LA was right there to try and stop them by trying to get them into the pool.

                  Edit: I should have said many didn’t Fedora opted out of compiling mesa with hardware accell, and it seems others did too recently. But that means it was there the whole time. I guess most distros, that have any money, are going to want shelter from lawsuits.

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          More annoyed when the distro doesn’t even bother to document how to properly install the “missing” codecs.

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              Nope. VLC uses system libraries, unless you install through something that ships its own dependencies like flatpak.

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                I’ve heard it’s great for opening any file. Is it good with a bunch of file formats as opposed to media codecs?

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                  VLC is good everywhere even though it cannot compare to MPV in number of features available. It will work for most people just fine.

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        It’s crazy that Linux distros think that installing codecs is a reasonable expectation for users. Especially users new to Linux.

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        Quality of life improvement. Plus it’s normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now.

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          Plus it’s normal for operating systems to have some kind of smartphone/smart device integration now.

          And I don’t approve of this transition. It’s unnecessary bloat. Just install it if you want it.

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                Guess what if you installed a DE, other than the tiling ones, it came with bloat.

                You probably also use systemd, another infamous piece of bloatware. /s

                Gentoo has less bloat than Arch if really want to get into nitpicking.

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                  I use systemd, but I do not use a DE.

                  Just because they contain bloat, doesn’t mean they should, and that more should be added.

    • Oh yeah! That downgrade option sounds cool. The only time I kinda regretted being on Manjaro. VirtualBox 7 still doesn’t have functional graphics. I tried downgrade, but that didn’t work. Maybe I should have tried deleting the VirtualBox config 🤔